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Dan Slight Overbomber

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Post #26 Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| I emailed em to you. Theres 2 scans, each one around 500-600k. They couldn't be any smaller or the text wouldn't be readable. |
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Quiff Boy Herr Administrator

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Post #27 Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Dan wrote: | | I emailed em to you. Theres 2 scans, each one around 500-600k. They couldn't be any smaller or the text wouldn't be readable. |
done.
http://www.myheartland.co.uk/bengunn/
cheers dan
click on the "small" versions for full 150 dpi scans (approx 600k each).
be warned, even the "small" versions are quite big at 250k each.
if you are on dialup, be prepared to wait a while  _________________ the cake is a lie
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Karst Slight Overbomber

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Gripper Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth

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Post #29 Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2003 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Just to confirm the rumour: Ben (Matthews) Gunn WAS at Liverpool University, at the same time I was (84-87). In fact, he loved nothing more than to amuse the babygoths by walking round with a book 'How to play guitar' sticking out of his bag. _________________ My car's faster than your mum, but not as dirty. |
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Gripper Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth

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Post #30 Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Far be it from me to divulge personal details about ex-band members.... but if you want to see what Ben says he's doing now you could do worse than have a look at Liverpool University, 1987, on the Friends Reunited website. _________________ My car's faster than your mum, but not as dirty. |
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Quiff Boy Herr Administrator

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Post #31 Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.myheartland.co.uk/images/bengunn/ should do the trick
the small ones do appear, they just take a while coz they aint really that small  _________________ the cake is a lie
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Quiff Boy Herr Administrator

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Gripper Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth

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Post #33 Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for adding the above web address, QB.
Now, under NO circumstances is anyone to use the 'send a voice message to Ben' facility pretending to be Von asking Ben to rejoin the band. That would be awfully childish. _________________ My car's faster than your mum, but not as dirty. |
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Black Dahlia Elegantly Wasted

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Post #34 Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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How could he call his daughter Olive? Thats just mean. _________________ Hell is other people |
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whitesatin Road Kill

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Post #35 Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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Is he real Ben Mattews?
urrrrrrrrrrrgh.
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markfiend Herr Administrator

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Post #36 Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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I remember some "friend" trying to convince me that the guy who used to work the mixing/lighting desk in The Duchess was actually Ben Gunn.
I wasn't convinced  _________________ Today is Pungenday, the 70th of Discord, 3179. Pzat! |
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Dan Slight Overbomber

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Post #37 Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| markfiend wrote: | I remember some "friend" trying to convince me that the guy who used to work the mixing/lighting desk in The Duchess was actually Ben Gunn.
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Nah, I remember that guy. He was called Flat Nose John. |
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Quiff Boy Herr Administrator

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Post #38 Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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*bump*
hmmm, anyone seen dan recently? probably a longshot but just wondering if he still has the 2 ben gunn scans
i dont have the original email anymore.... 2003 was at least 2 pcs and a mac ago  _________________ the cake is a lie
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welshbiker Road Kill

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Post #39 Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Another *bump*!!
I'd love to have a look at those scans / interview if anyone still has them? _________________ Drink beer, take drugs, have sex, RIDE BIKES!! |
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markfiend Herr Administrator

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Post #40 Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:48 am Post subject: |
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By the way, did anyone ever find out who Ben Gunn is these days?  _________________ Today is Pungenday, the 70th of Discord, 3179. Pzat! |
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Mothra Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth

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Post #41 Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| Quiff Boy wrote: | *bump*
hmmm, anyone seen dan recently? probably a longshot but just wondering if he still has the 2 ben gunn scans
i dont have the original email anymore.... 2003 was at least 2 pcs and a mac ago  |
Are these the ones you mean?
http://www.ultimatesistersguide.org/images/mag/time_forgot.jpg |
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Being645 Underneath the Rock

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paint it black Black, black, black & even blacker

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Post #43 Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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I have a mate who was good friends with Ben in 1982/83. Interesting times  _________________ romeo foxtrot shall we dance |
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mh Underneath the Rock

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Post #44 Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Aaaaaand - look wot I just found: http://jasonbarnard.com/stanley-the-counting-horse/ _________________ All programs can be optimized, and all programs have bugs; therefore all programs can be optimized to one line that doesn’t work. |
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Nikolas Vitus Lagartija Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth

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Post #45 Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Great find ! And to think that I voted for this guy as greatest Sisters guitarist. It looks like watching the original Stanley would have been more entertaining than that lot. |
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Quiff Boy Herr Administrator

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Post #46 Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Great find ! And to think that I voted for this guy as greatest Sisters guitarist. It looks like watching the original Stanley would have been more entertaining than that lot. |
you've been rumbled mate
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Dan Slight Overbomber

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Post #47 Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Mothra wrote: | | Quiff Boy wrote: | *bump*
hmmm, anyone seen dan recently? probably a longshot but just wondering if he still has the 2 ben gunn scans
i dont have the original email anymore.... 2003 was at least 2 pcs and a mac ago  |
Are these the ones you mean?
http://www.ultimatesistersguide.org/images/mag/time_forgot.jpg |
Yeah that's the same article I posted. No point me scanning it again as it wouldn't look any better than that. |
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Nikolas Vitus Lagartija Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth

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Post #48 Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Well it's the first time I've been (deliberately ?) misquoted ! Whilst I was clearly stating that watching a police horse stamping his foot would be more enjoyable than having to sit through a gig by the band of the same name, with clever editing I appear to be saying that said band were better than the Sisters. And people wonder why doesn't enjoy interviews. |
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Mothra Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth

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Post #49 Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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Did Ben really write the riff to Alice?
I know him & Von had to settle up financially after SGWBM came out (Ben getting less than he asked for but more than Von thought he was worth from memory?), but I always figured that just meant that he felt he was entitled to some money from being on what was at the time a top 5 UK album. But the riff to Alice is pretty timeless/classic/insert-cliche-as-you-see-fit(!).
No sign of his name on the writing credits on the CD, but that would explain why he contacted Von after a long time without their paths crossing - surely a lot of people purchased the compilation so as to own a copy of that one song in particular? |
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stufarq Popweazle Piddlepoop

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Post #50 Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Mothra wrote: | Did Ben really write the riff to Alice?
I know him & Von had to settle up financially after SGWBM came out (Ben getting less than he asked for but more than Von thought he was worth from memory?), but I always figured that just meant that he felt he was entitled to some money from being on what was at the time a top 5 UK album. But the riff to Alice is pretty timeless/classic/insert-cliche-as-you-see-fit(!).
No sign of his name on the writing credits on the CD, but that would explain why he contacted Von after a long time without their paths crossing - surely a lot of people purchased the compilation so as to own a copy of that one song in particular? |
It would be up to the record company, rather than Von, to issue royalties to the performers so that's unlikely to be the reason for any financial settlement between the two men as Ben is mentioned in the credits (although not specifically as a performer so it's just possible that Von neglected to point out that Ben was due a share).
On the other hand, the writing is credited solely to Von, which means he's been receiving sole royalties for it. If Ben got him to admit to co-authorship then Von would have to pay Ben out of his own pocket as he'd already received all the money.
The fly in that ointment is that Von once implied that his publishers owned the entire rights to his songs. He didn't say when that started and it may well only refer to songs published after they got a major deal but if Alice was included then it would be up to the publishers to settle. |
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