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Badlander Overbomber

Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 3555 Location: My City of Ruins
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Post #351 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 10:54 am Post subject: |
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You know what I'm really pissed off with ? There's many more people coming to HL to complain about what in their opinion was a bad gig than there is when people are happy.
If you don't bother coming here when things are alright, why do you bother coming here at all ? Do you think that this forum's sole purpose is to receive complaints ? _________________ I'd end this moment to be with you
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allfear Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth

Joined: 29 May 2002 Posts: 655 Location: Plymouth UK
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Post #352 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Well firstly the Gig
While the Sound mix was abysmal I thinght the sisters were awsome, and are still the main reason why ima goth!!!!!
As for the Astoria, Well nenver mind that they dont let in people on the guest list, Last year I was one of the main people behind the Running of Arthur Browns Big Show there, at one point they Tried to throw me out of the venue for taking a bloody photograph!! and back in 96 I remember a bouncer there throw the singer of a band that was playing there down the staires because she didnt pack up and clear out quick enough, then you got the intimadeteing men in the bogs trying to get money out of you for wahing your hands.
Basically PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Mr E Next time u do london do either the Forum, Brixton or better still 5 nights at the islington Academy the best quality venue in london even if it isnt the biggest!
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jay Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth
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Post #353 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 10:57 am Post subject: |
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Yeah... Stop moaning a start getting some photos on here _________________ I no longer get very wrought up over the liminals
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allfear Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth

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Post #354 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Oh as a PS I took my mate with me who saw them many times before but hadnt seen them since bristol Studios in 1985 and he really enjoyed it, so roll on next wednesday
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Ozpat From the Lowlands

Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 5926 Location: Wollumbin
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Post #355 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:09 am Post subject: |
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| Badlander wrote: | You know what I'm really pissed off with ? There's many more people coming to HL to complain about what in their opinion was a bad gig than there is when people are happy.
If you don't bother coming here when things are alright, why do you bother coming here at all ? Do you think that this forum's sole purpose is to receive complaints ? |
Don't let them get to you mate. The're gone before you know it.  _________________ "Isn't it strange who turns up on a day like this?!" |
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allfear Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth

Joined: 29 May 2002 Posts: 655 Location: Plymouth UK
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Post #356 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:12 am Post subject: |
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| I got to say though there was a LOT of bad feeling of dissapointment I was stood neal a bunch of really friendly french people that travelled over and were really upset by the poor sound and short set. there were a lot of boos from the audience as well, as I said I enjoyed it thoug I can see why a lot didn't |
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bananacamel Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth

Joined: 12 Feb 2005 Posts: 301 Location: Between the North & South Downs
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Post #357 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| Badlander wrote: | You know what I'm really pissed off with ? There's many more people coming to HL to complain about what in their opinion was a bad gig than there is when people are happy.
If you don't bother coming here when things are alright, why do you bother coming here at all ? Do you think that this forum's sole purpose is to receive complaints ? |
No, I think it's a forum where people are free to express their views.
You're right, if it had been an amazing gig, I would have logged on read others comments and probably not posted anything. The reason I posted was because I was shocked, I've never been disappointed at a sisters gig before.
Personally, I think it's good that people are talking about it, the worst situation would be people not caring. After all, we all love this band.  |
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markreed Road Kill

Joined: 02 Aug 2005 Posts: 84 Location: somewhere south of isabella adjani
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Post #358 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| This forum is for people who like The Sisters, not people who think everything The Sisters do is perfect in every way. Or is Sycophants corner now? |
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markfiend The Cat In The Hat

Joined: 11 Nov 2003 Posts: 14200 Location: 1987
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Post #359 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:39 am Post subject: |
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| markreed wrote: | | Or is Sycophants corner now? | I don't think it should be, for one. _________________ I taught I taw a Romulan. |
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Gottdammerung Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth

Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 650 Location: 'Ackney
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Post #360 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:59 am Post subject: |
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| Bartoszek wrote: | thanks for all review, but wheres photos  |
Well here's one of the best of mine so far.. given the dry ice..
In the words of Rolf Harris.. can you tell what it is yet?/
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the-happening Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth

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Post #361 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Does Von think that their 1985 album has no tracks on it that are good enough to get a live airing! Adam and Astoria had no such songs how strange, oh well won't add to the list of grievances about last nights gig but suffice to say I don't much like being ejected immediately the house lights go on, I wonder if merch sales were down due to the venues policy of immediate exit, they couldn't have been quicker if was a real fire or security alert. _________________ "i'm talking about god, devil, hell, do you understand, finally?" |
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Mokarran Road Kill

Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Posts: 56 Location: London
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Post #362 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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I'm going to agree with the 'too short and too quiet' consensus. As ever, there were moments of Godlike Genius, but I fear Satan was at the mixing desk. The dry ice wasn't so OTT - I've seen more at a Pixies gig (!).
To sing the way Von does, you can't really shout for long periods. He's just got to growl enigmatically into the mike and save the shouting for the shouty bits. Actually, the shouty bits were very satisfying (I would dearly love to hear his '1969' again), but Von was too far back in the mix for most of the time. I really don't mind not seeing the little fella, but not making himself heard is, frankly, a tad presumptuous.
It's always special seeing the Sisters, but a lot of people were left nonplussed by this one. The new guitarists did a great job, but I'm not going to bother remembering their names, as you never know how long these guys are going to be in the job. Perhaps a number system would be more practical...
Interesting to see how many people feel cheesed off with the setlist. I reckon it just shows that Sisters fans all have their own ideas about which period/songs are best. Is it my imagination, or does Von have a personal dislike of the 'First Last Always' material?
I'm not good at making out the spoken bits, but I think I heard Von say 'I can't hear me either' when those shy boys at the front offered their own helpful advice on the mix. And was that a 'goodnight slaves' at the end? The prolonged bow is open to interpretation. Von knew this was not a classic gig, so the gesture was either deeply ironic, humbly apologetic or he knackered his back.
Very impressed to see so many goths summoning the energy to (sort of) dance and sing along. It kind of made up for the lack of audible Von...but not quite. Finally, and I admit I am getting old, I'm getting a bit fed up with the way they pack in the crowds in the mid-size venues. I'd say this one was 10 per cent oversold, but for the benefit of m'learned friends I would add that this is only a personal opinion.
I have been a Sisters fan since the mid-Eighties, but I do wonder if will turn out to be my last gig. However, unlike the big bloke I overheard in the bar, I will not be rushing off to see Fields of the Stevenage. Despite all their faults, there's no-one quite like the Sisters...
Tata.
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Gottdammerung Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth

Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 650 Location: 'Ackney
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Post #363 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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and another one...
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allfear Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth

Joined: 29 May 2002 Posts: 655 Location: Plymouth UK
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Post #364 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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I bought a t shirt from the merch stall downstaires, last time at the astorial was a scrum and a half, this time tere was NOBODY there, I mean I walked up and just bought a T shirt!!
so yes I think merch sales would have been affected, again another curse of the astoria |
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hellboy69 Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth

Joined: 15 Aug 2005 Posts: 322 Location: Londinium
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Post #365 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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| TheBoyNextDoor wrote: | The sound on this tour has always been better somewhere i the middle.. and then be worse again.
So what does this mean?
My guess it that they have pre-mixed everything on a digital mixing desk (perumably before the tour), and don't bother to mix anything during the gig (or can't?). And it's hard to do anything with those pre-recorded stuff... |
And it don't help that Von couldn't be arsed to do a soundcheck.
I'm loving my Silverbullet t-shirt though. Long sleeves are IN this season 
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Gottdammerung Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth

Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 650 Location: 'Ackney
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Post #366 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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| allfear wrote: | I bought a t shirt from the merch stall downstaires, last time at the astorial was a scrum and a half, this time tere was NOBODY there, I mean I walked up and just bought a T shirt!!
so yes I think merch sales would have been affected, again another curse of the astoria |
Mmm... i was more fecked off by there not being any "Shut the f**k up" t-shirts.. though getting a Sisters Gegen Nazis one did kind of make up for it...
Funiiest thing was the bootleg T-shirts outside with the most awful italic typescript for the band name... 0% for effort! _________________ You can turn your back on a person, but never turn your back on a drug, especially when its waving a razor sharp hunting knife in your eye
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the-happening Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth

Joined: 13 Sep 2003 Posts: 521 Location: Farnborough, Hampshire
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Post #367 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Gottdammerung wrote: | | allfear wrote: | I bought a t shirt from the merch stall downstaires, last time at the astorial was a scrum and a half, this time tere was NOBODY there, I mean I walked up and just bought a T shirt!!
so yes I think merch sales would have been affected, again another curse of the astoria |
Mmm... i was more fecked off by there not being any "Shut the f**k up" t-shirts.. though getting a Sisters Gegen Nazis one did kind of make up for it...
Funiiest thing was the bootleg T-shirts outside with the most awful italic typescript for the band name... 0% for effort! |
Agreed the bootleg shirts outside were hilarious was I pissed or was there a Dennis the Menace style shirt! _________________ "i'm talking about god, devil, hell, do you understand, finally?" |
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Hooligan Road Kill
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Post #368 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone else think Von's long coat made him look like a bald Cruella DeVille?  |
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Gottdammerung Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth

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Post #369 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| the-happening wrote: | | Gottdammerung wrote: | | allfear wrote: | I bought a t shirt from the merch stall downstaires, last time at the astorial was a scrum and a half, this time tere was NOBODY there, I mean I walked up and just bought a T shirt!!
so yes I think merch sales would have been affected, again another curse of the astoria |
Mmm... i was more fecked off by there not being any "Shut the f**k up" t-shirts.. though getting a Sisters Gegen Nazis one did kind of make up for it...
Funiiest thing was the bootleg T-shirts outside with the most awful italic typescript for the band name... 0% for effort! |
Agreed the bootleg shirts outside were hilarious was I pissed or was there a Dennis the Menace style shirt! |
Yup... your eyes were not deceiving you... _________________ You can turn your back on a person, but never turn your back on a drug, especially when its waving a razor sharp hunting knife in your eye
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Gottdammerung Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth

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Post #370 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Hooligan wrote: | Anyone else think Von's long coat made him look like a bald Cruella DeVille?  |
I thought he had borrowed it off Pete Burns for the night...  _________________ You can turn your back on a person, but never turn your back on a drug, especially when its waving a razor sharp hunting knife in your eye
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DomConway Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth

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Post #371 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Another disappointed person here I'm afraid. The whole thing was way, way too quiet - especially Von's vocals. The volume did pick up a bit as the gig went on, but still wasn't loud enough to get a proper atmosphere going. I've been absolutely gutted about missing Sisters the last couple of times around, so had high hopes for this night and feel well let down I'll give them a second chance in Bristol though, hopefully that'll be better.
Good to bump into a few of you at the end, even if it was rather briefly. _________________ the only thing to fear is fear itself |
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ruffers Slight Overbomber

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Post #372 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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My tuppence -
It was OK, no more. Sound was good but as has been said far too quiet. It's possible to have loud and clear at the Astoria, Primal Scream managed it a few weeks ago so I don't see why the Sisters can't do it.
Overall though it just gave the impression of going through the motions, a bit stale, a bit tired. Much as I'd love the set to be different I knew what I was going to get so don't really have a problem with it so not complaining that way, but maybe they could freshen it up from show to show to keep a bit of an edge. I can understand the set being fairly constnat with new members but they seem pretty well honed by now so surely they can learn some new stuff.
So, disappointingly but realisticaly, what I expected. I enjoyed it but 6/10 no more. And I never heard a single comment between songs, it was almost like an extended PA. _________________ Currently listening to - see Currently Listening To... |
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hellboy69 Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth

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Post #373 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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| DomConway wrote: | Another disappointed person here I'm afraid. The whole thing was way, way too quiet - especially Von's vocals. The volume did pick up a bit as the gig went on, but still wasn't loud enough to get a proper atmosphere going. I've been absolutely gutted about missing Sisters the last couple of times around, so had high hopes for this night and feel well let down I'll give them a second chance in Bristol though, hopefully that'll be better.
Good to bump into a few of you at the end, even if it was rather briefly. |
Hope Bristol is an improvement! I can't make it to any of the other shows sadly (spent my last funds on Killing Joke this Thurs)
I feel i have to mention the fact that Von didn't soundcheck at the Astoria. That just seems like madness to me ~ and such a simple, basic thing to sort out any problems with levels dammit! Was he busy buying his coat?
Crash & Burn <sounded great, fantastic opening>
Ribbons <again, awesome>
Dr Jeep / Detonation Boulevard
When You Don't See Me <okey dokey, 3 VT tracks, but nothing off of FALAA all evening ~ a shame IMHO>
Flood 1 <this is where the sound took a nosedive, no-one can hear Von, crowd chants "Up, Up, Up!" and Von replies tersely "Well, I can't hear you either" ~ did the sound guy fall asleep here or what?>
We are the Same, Susanne <Wow, sound guy wakes up for the next 3 songs, but then falls asleep again!>
Giving Ground
Summer
Dominion
Slept
Alice
Anaconda
Romeo Down
Never Land
This Corrosion
Something Fast
Lucretia My Reflection <sound guy wakes up around about... Here!>
Top Nite Out <one of the best performances all night>
Temple <storming finish, but too little, too late>
So, The Ivories soundchecked twice. Von couldn't be bothered to soundcheck, fact. (my mate can hear all the soundchecks in her office next door, she was there all day until the show ~ i repeat, Von did NOT soundcheck ~ insanity! i tells you!) |
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Badlander Overbomber

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Post #374 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Ozpat wrote: | | Badlander wrote: | You know what I'm really pissed off with ? There's many more people coming to HL to complain about what in their opinion was a bad gig than there is when people are happy.
If you don't bother coming here when things are alright, why do you bother coming here at all ? Do you think that this forum's sole purpose is to receive complaints ? |
Don't let them get to you mate. The're gone before you know it.  |
Oh don't worry, I don't care that much what they think. I just wish all those people who pop up after a show only to complain and then vanish brought something positive to the table for a change.
Remember that "enough of the yawning" thread ?  _________________ I'd end this moment to be with you
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Scardwel Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth

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Post #375 Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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I thought it was a pretty good performance, but the PA volume was so damned low it was a disgrace. Motorhead it certainly wasn't!
Crowd seemed pretty hostile at times but I don't really blame them.
Hopefully Leeds tonight will be better. |
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