The Gift album

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Stonking. But it's like the best techno-ey stuff. Sounds blinding while you're doing the washing-up, sounds better still at 3AM in a field. :D
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Ah! The e-generation. Those Greenham Common women have a lot to answer for.
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E-generation? Who said anything about the e-generation?

'This chorus is brought to you by the letter...Speedy Dave'. Bless.
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So what does speed do for you Dave, apart from keep you awake when there's nothing to do? And what does E do for you apart from make you jump up and down with your arms in the air?

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i dont know about anyone else but i like being awake when theres nothing to do-its the only time i get to "relax" and/or get things done.as for "E" without it yould only be left with "spd"
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oh yeah...gifts pretty damned fine too.
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I listen to Gift more than any other Sisters material.

It's brilliant when you've had a nice, big, cup of tea :lol:
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I have Finland Red mp3 as my Ringtone, it certainly gets yer attention!
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culprit wrote:I have Finland Red mp3 as my Ringtone, it certainly gets yer attention!
I've got Giving Ground in a crappy polyphonic edition for ringtone and alarm to wake me up :lol:
But my phone is on silent 99% of the time anyway, so :roll:
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Chairman Bux wrote:You could also look at it in terms of personnel involved: Gift was always going to be a better product due to the attending genii, Patricia discounted of course. Mr. Fox, Mr. Ray and the good Doktor were always going to produce a superior body of work to Messrs Eldritch and co. in a small bedroom somewhere in deepest darkest Leeds 7.
Genii? LUCAS FOX!!!! JAMES RAY ?!?!?! You must be bloody joking. The doktor is nowt but a machine and is nada without the attendant nurses and whilst Patty might not be a genius shes a very good bass player.

Or have my irony circuits been bypassed somewhere? My head hurts; I'm going for a lie down. :|
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You want to be careful mik, some people round these parts (not myself I hasten to add) seem to treat a compliment to Patsy as a treasonous offence. :|
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Bollocks to 'em.

I saw Patsy many moons ago playing with the Gun Club and she had it. Von knew it which why HE asked HER to help out with Gift / Floodland.

There are public sides to why that didn't work out in the long run, and I have no private insight, but it should be remembered that she was brought in because of her talent. She's certainly better than Tony James...
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Hehehehe

Some folk on here take :von: at his word when he claimed that "the only time she picked up a guitar was for the videos".

Like you say, bollocks to 'em. ;D
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Well she certainly seems to get a reaction -

".... Patricia was a very poor musician (even as late as her Sisters of Mercy days she would go home and ask musician friends to teach her the bands' material)......." - Jim Duckworth, The Gun Club.

From http://www.thegunclub.net/jim.htm
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Isn't bass one of the simpler instruments to play - no chords, just notes? Anyway, she went pretty far for an allegedly unskilled musician. In fact, I believe there are heaps of relatively technically inefficient rockers around.
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IIRC Paul McCartney can't read standard music notation; it doesn't seem to have hurt his career any.
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Black Biscuit wrote:Isn't bass one of the simpler instruments to play - no chords, just notes? Anyway, she went pretty far for an allegedly unskilled musician. In fact, I believe there are heaps of relatively technically inefficient rockers around.
the thought of anyone being "technically efficient" scares me. i wouldnt want to be in a band with a technically efficient musician :lol:

give me dee dee ramone over eddy van halen any day :notworthy:

but you can have bass chords, technically. but they're all a bit jazz odyssey :lol: ;D
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Right

Bass ranges from very simple to incredibly complex

At the simple edge would be eight to the bar notes and maybe the simpler plinky plonky stuff

Next you go into scales which start quite basic and can develop into the incredibly tricky riffs and licks.

Funk and Jazz bass is quite complex (Bootzy Collins, Marcus Miller)

Jaco Pastorius played the bass like a lead instument, he was a God.

Lemmy tends to play chords (having started out as a rhythm guitarist), a lot of what you think is the guitar in Motorhead is actually the bass.
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mik wrote:
I saw Patsy many moons ago playing with the Gun Club and she had it.
I'll take your word for that, but I can tell you by the time I saw her with Fur Bible she didn't. At all.

Good eyebrows though.
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Whereabouts on that evolutionary scale are you then Ed?
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Ed Rhombus wrote:At the simple edge would be eight to the bar notes and maybe the simpler plinky plonky stuff
hey! thats me ;D :D :lol: :notworthy:
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Sorry but this question about the sleeve of this CD started to haunt me:

http://www.myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=8806
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eastmidswhizzkid wrote:as for "E" without it yould only be left with "spd"
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Re Patsy and technical proficiency.
It was the 80's.
She had good hair.
In addition to being one very foxy lady.
She may or may not have been able to play bass.
Does it matter?

The Yngwie Malmsteen forum is this way... :innocent: :P
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nick the stripper wrote:
I've only heard "Giving Ground" :notworthy: and "Colours" and 30 second clips of all the other songs, but what I heard I liked.

I especially like what I heard of "Rain From Heaven"
How come you only heard those 30 second clips? Didn't I send Gift to you just before the summer?! :twisted: Go listen!
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radiojamaica wrote:
nick the stripper wrote:
I've only heard "Giving Ground" :notworthy: and "Colours" and 30 second clips of all the other songs, but what I heard I liked.

I especially like what I heard of "Rain From Heaven"
How come you only heard those 30 second clips? Didn't I send Gift to you just before the summer?! :twisted: Go listen!
:lol: No, you sent me Gift after I requested it in the trading section. You're quoting a very old post there. Belive me, I've listened to Gift many many times.
And many many thankyous for sending it to me. :notworthy:
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