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kafka Amphetamine Filth

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Post #1 Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:11 am Post subject: No Time to Cry |
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Since nobody's really saying anything... on to the lesser canon.
"It's just like Adam says; it's not so hard to understand" -- what's that all about, then? Given the proximity to "Just like Jesus never came," I'd assume it's a biblical allusion; as far as I'm aware, the only thing Adam really says anything in the Bible it's to blame Eve / the serpent for the fall.
So, what to read into that? For anybody with inside knowledge (however hazy it must by now be), did Claire talk the band into signing a record deal?
And how do we parse some of the other lines in this stanza? I've found the "just like always" lines a bit difficult, but overall it feels to me like Von is basically saying "what did you expect this record business deal to be like? Stop your whining and let's get to work." It is a conflicted lyric, mind you: the battle between "everything will be all right" and "some nights I still can't sleep" (although I suppose that might be due to the amphetamines), between the "I get frightened too" and the "I keep no time to cry".
My reading is that this is the point where Andrew says "ok, we knew this was going to be difficult--what did you expect? But now that we're doing it, let's do it." It feels a little bit like the Eldritch ethos, as I see it -- which is a large part of what makes him and the band so fascinating: the undercurrent of fear and uncertainty coupled with the will to move forward regardless.
OK, late night ramble over. What do you people think? _________________ [repeat x40] |
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markfiend goriller of form 3b

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Post #2 Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:43 am Post subject: |
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I think the line "Just like Jesus never came" is important. Is it about living in a "fallen state"?
So yeah, I do wonder if it's about the deal with WEA. _________________ it is my firm belief that it is a mistake to hold firm beliefs |
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Being645 Above the Chemist

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Post #3 Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 10:55 am Post subject: |
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I have come to the conclusion that this referred to being captured between concepts and that Adam was Adam Smith,
in the sense that economic orientation makes the world all right - just like Jesus never came ... |
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markfiend goriller of form 3b

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Post #4 Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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I'd never thought of that! _________________ it is my firm belief that it is a mistake to hold firm beliefs |
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LyanvisAberrant Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth

Joined: 18 Mar 2013 Posts: 497 Location: Where the wild roses grow.
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Post #5 Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I think the "Everything will be alright" bit is about false hope or something of the sort. Just trying to reassure himself of something or other. useful _________________ A man with a fictitious grin pondered the terrain in which he flooded with anguish, for this is England. The lion cannot be tamed, this is the game. |
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stufarq Popweazle Piddlepoop

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Post #6 Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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LyanvisAberrant wrote: | Well, I think the "Everything will be alright" bit is about false hope or something of the sort. Just trying to reassure himself of something or other. useful |
Exactly. Hugging your knees in the darkness rpeating over and over again "Everything will be alright, everything will be alright, everything will be alright..."
I don't think it's about record deals or philosophy or religion or anything like that. It's a song about fear, a subject Von returned to in Arms. Both songs talk about the fear of fear itself. _________________ Any more of that and we'll be round your front door with the quick-setting whitewash and the shaved monkey. |
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Being645 Above the Chemist

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Post #7 Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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LyanvisAberrant wrote: | Well, I think the "Everything will be alright" bit is about false hope or something of the sort. Just trying to reassure himself of something or other. useful |
Oh hell, ever suffered from long-term insomnia?
When thoughts are running round your head and just won't stop circulating around - nothing, in effect ...
One day, there's gonna be silence ... that definitely is the last resort to throw all this "thinking" out of gear ...
plus, of course, changing one's day-time activities to some vitalising directions - and within all the s**t that will never be alright, of course ...
So, I for one, wouldn't call it "false hope" ... strugglin', rather ... |
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stufarq Popweazle Piddlepoop

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Post #8 Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Is the title a quote from anywhere? it occurred to me that it's mentioned in REM's Shiny Happy People and I wondered if they were referencing the Sisters or if there was a common origin. _________________ Any more of that and we'll be round your front door with the quick-setting whitewash and the shaved monkey. |
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eastmidswhizzkid Faster Than The Light Of Speed

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Post #9 Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:04 am Post subject: |
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i have ALWAYS found the song uplifting, especially during my own dark times and especially the "everything will be alright..." part of the song. i disagree that its "false hope" -when you are reassuring yourself hope is hope, regardless of how things eventually turn out. just the fact that you havent yet given up, laid down and died means you havent given up hope.
when i saw the sisters at leamington spa i was in the middle of a court battle to have access to my son. before the show one of the songs played through the p.a. was motorhead's rock roll (which my son Rocky is partly named for) which made me cry -part happy tears,part not. when the sisters played No Time To Cry -completely out of the blue, for the first time in decades- i felt like they were playing it for me, and the joy and hope that that gave me lasted until i eventually won the court case.
often a song's meaning is as much about the listener as the writer, regardless of the lyrics original meaning. _________________ #KickOutTheTories
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