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Being645
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PostPost #76  Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

LyanvisAberrant wrote:
Being645 wrote:
markfiend wrote:
I always thought the red ribbon was an obscure reference to this - or at least to the yellow ribbon practice in general.


Yes. That seems most likely to me as well. Also considering they made Crash And Burn decades later ... Wink Mr. Green ...


Yeah, that seems plausible. Hadn't heard of that before Smile
Also, this is probably just me being slow, but what's the relation to crash and burn?


Just a feeling ... Cool ...
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PostPost #77  Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Being645 wrote:
LyanvisAberrant wrote:
Being645 wrote:
markfiend wrote:
I always thought the red ribbon was an obscure reference to this - or at least to the yellow ribbon practice in general.


Yes. That seems most likely to me as well. Also considering they made Crash And Burn decades later ... Wink Mr. Green ...


Yeah, that seems plausible. Hadn't heard of that before Smile
Also, this is probably just me being slow, but what's the relation to crash and burn?


Just a feeling ... Cool ...


Damn you lot and your cryptic-ness.
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PostPost #78  Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

LyanvisAberrant wrote:
Being645 wrote:
LyanvisAberrant wrote:
Being645 wrote:
markfiend wrote:
I always thought the red ribbon was an obscure reference to this - or at least to the yellow ribbon practice in general.


Yes. That seems most likely to me as well. Also considering they made Crash And Burn decades later ... Wink Mr. Green ...


Yeah, that seems plausible. Hadn't heard of that before Smile
Also, this is probably just me being slow, but what's the relation to crash and burn?


Just a feeling ... Cool ...


Damn you lot and your cryptic-ness.


... Laughing ... Flowers on the razor wire ... Wink
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PostPost #79  Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I think this song (as with a lot of songs, really) is about sex, particularly the sleazy casual variety. here's why...


"Flowers on the razor wire..." - love is a minefield. Enter at your own risk.


"Her lovers queued up in the hallway/I heard them scratching at the door" - He may be one of many, or he beat the rest of them to the prize. It's never made entirely clear.


"I tried to tell her/about Marx and Engels, God and angels/I don't really know what for/But she looked good in ribbons" - he (probably Von knowing him) intellectually dwarfs the other party, but it doesn't matter for now because she looks good in ribbons.


"Love is a many splintered thing/Don't be afraid now/Just walk on in" - again, love is a minefield...but these things happen, so let them happen. It's human nature.


"INCOMING" - here we go again....
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PostPost #80  Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

"Sex and violence and intelligence all rolled into one - a perverse and wonderfully lethal cocktail." -Quote from Eldo about Ribbons in an old interview I read the other day ("Excess All Areas").

He says some other stuff about the Ribbons lyrics in that interview if you wanna check it out.

Also I'm pretty sure "flowers on the razor wire" isn't necessarily a part of the song's story or carrying any particular message. I think he's just using that image to make the listener mentally compare sex and violence.

Also also hey guys I'm new here.
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PostPost #81  Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

AmericanDream wrote:

Also also hey guys I'm new here.


Hihi ... the bottom forum to introduce yourself ... Laughing ... but hey, somebody has seen you, so

WELCOME, AmericanDream ... Very Happy ...


AdrenaChris wrote:

"INCOMING" - here we go again....

Cool and simple ... We are not worthy! We are not worthy! ...
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PostPost #82  Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

My father thought Ribbons was somehow about the Vietnam War (he was a vet and was also a fan of that album). I'll explain the references:

"Just walk on in" -- this could refer to mortar fire "walking in." Here's a thread on Yahoo! Answers on what this means: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100215124359AA3hhbo

"Incoming!!!" -- a reference to incoming artillery fire.

"I'm lying on my back now, the stars look all too near" -- This could be a reference to gazing at the night sky from somewhere in the middle of the Vietnamese jungle.

All the references to razor wire. Obviously a common thing in warzones.

"Her lovers queued up in the hallway" -- could be a reference to Vietnamese prostitutes.

"Marx and Engels." -- a reference to communist theory (the Vietnam War was fought against communism).

"I see no purple light, Crashing out of you" -- could be a reference to someone being hit (or not being hit) by an artillery shell.

Anyway, not conclusive by any means, but I was Googling the lyrics to Ribbons and happened upon this thread and figured I'd share a few thoughts.
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PostPost #83  Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

mnyounger wrote:
My father thought Ribbons was somehow about the Vietnam War (he was a vet and was also a fan of that album). I'll explain the references:

"Just walk on in" -- this could refer to mortar fire "walking in." Here's a thread on Yahoo! Answers on what this means: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100215124359AA3hhbo

"Incoming!!!" -- a reference to incoming artillery fire.

"I'm lying on my back now, the stars look all too near" -- This could be a reference to gazing at the night sky from somewhere in the middle of the Vietnamese jungle.

All the references to razor wire. Obviously a common thing in warzones.

"Her lovers queued up in the hallway" -- could be a reference to Vietnamese prostitutes.

"Marx and Engels." -- a reference to communist theory (the Vietnam War was fought against communism).

"I see no purple light, Crashing out of you" -- could be a reference to someone being hit (or not being hit) by an artillery shell.

Anyway, not conclusive by any means, but I was Googling the lyrics to Ribbons and happened upon this thread and figured I'd share a few thoughts.

I really like these thoughts... Very Happy ...
and btw, although it's quite late to say so, hello and welcome mnyounger ... Very Happy ...
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