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In a private message conversation with myself on Facebook re. the future and our 'renewed hopes' in light of the new songs:
Ben Christo wrote:Thanks, man! I’m really hopeful myself as we move into this next era. Let’s see!
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We can but hope Ben and Dylan can ignite Von's rock star fire again. Surely by now he has a tax bill to pay or an Eagle or three to feed.
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Look, the reality is that the band has been more creatively active in the last 12 months than it has been in 20 years.

That's cool.
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Swinnow wrote:...or an Eagle or three to feed.
He has former guitarists for that, surely?
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I've got to say that I simply cannot believe Andrew will go to the undoubtedly enormous effort of "finishing"a whole selection of these new songs, and releasing an album.
There is nothing to drive him to do so. No reason to release an album.
Depeche Mode releases an album, and its just a sweetener to roll off another huge world tour. The tour is the cash cow, not the record.

With the Sisters, the approach for two and half decades has been to play new songs at the shows. This *IS* the sweetener to go to the shows; the selection of unreleased songs that can't be experienced by any other means (expect for bootleggs). That's the cash cow.

I think you'll probably get 5-6 of them actually played in normal circulation, if you're lucky. By their standards that's pretty good.
Why not post the names of many of them on an html page on the official site ? That keeps people interested and doesn't cost a dime.
What not mention they've "worked on" over 16 songs in an interview ? That was free promotion as well. And we're here talking about it. Andrew's no fool.
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Ocean Moves wrote:I've got to say that I simply cannot believe Andrew will go to the undoubtedly enormous effort of "finishing"a whole selection of these new songs, and releasing an album.
There is nothing to drive him to do so. No reason to release an album.
North America - the one territory it seems the Sisters can't sell tickets, at least not without new product.
Given Andrew's ambivalent feelings towards it, and the current incumbent of the White House, it's highly debatable whether he'd want to.

I'd certainly concede your other points with the caveat that this is undeniably the most creative activity we've seen from the band in a couple of decades.
I won't be holding my breath for a new album, but I reserve the right to cling to the thin shred of hope that we might finally be seeing a sea change in AE's attitude towards releasing new material.
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"Andrew's no fool"

Males me wonder who is? I've been going to each tour since Ben G was a lad, plural occasions, home and abroad, until recently and this has made me think.

Unreasonable, nay heretic to some I know.

This has got me exploring the idea that this could be the most business like maneuvering we have seen by a "rock" outfit. Not a nice thought to me.

Mind you, last two nights were spent enjoying:
(i) a, sometimes shambolic, sometimes magical Mish gig in Birmingham;
(ii) the Levellers in Liverpool which was a glorious communal cathartic mix of Pogues, Clash, Hawkwind and Jethro Tull.
My old-fashioned views and individual, simplistic approach may be unwelcome to some but there you go, it's only my opinion and we all have them just like we have an a......

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Andrew's no fool. Well we know that. We also know that being a rock n roll star remains more addictive than sex and drugs and rock n roll together (coming as they do with the rest of the package). And we know that Andrew doesn't need to be a rock n rolller to earn a living as has often been stated; hence the lack of selling us any old s**t to feed the old trouble and the bin lids.Lets face it, the haters cant have it all ways: "he doesnt give a s**t about us and therefore hasnt given us new product for umpty-ump years" and "he releases any old s**t cuz he doesnt give a f**k about us and needs the dough" cant co-exist in the same point in time and space. nothing cuts 2 ways....

SO: we have Eldritch's rock and roll lifestyle existing as that most marvellous of things - a hobby (you can now drink the weak lemon drink). Which as anyone who has tasted it will tell you consists of a few fun things with a fuckload of dull things. Get rid of the dull things (everything bar playing live and the sex & drugs & rock n roll) and you're left with playing live and the sex & drugs & rock n roll. When he's had enough of those (he wont until it kills him or does what its done to poor mr denbigh for example) or we do a ziggy on him and the kids kill the man (we wont) he will carry on regardless. as does happen (and has happened) on occassion he will encounter fellow wayfairers who will imbue the road with wonder anew and inspire the journey to be something more; for a while at least. he will experience a rekindling of the love for -amongst other previously dull bits of being a rock n rolller- writing new songs, as has happened with this incarnation of the band.
again, as anyone who has ever experienced the 2 distinctions will tell you, writng songs alone or as part of a song-writing team is NOT THE SAME as writing new material as part of a band. this is a band again, not just Eldritch and -regrdless of their worth- some backing musicians . when they get bored of it or it implodes (it will- no one can work with Eldritch for very long) he will go back to the playing live.


...AND the sex & drugs & rock n roll natch.... :roll:

so WHATEVER DA FUCK!!
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eastmidswhizzkid wrote:...no one can work with Eldritch for very long...
Chris was in the band for ~15 years and Ben's not far behind. Just sayin'.
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eastmidswhizzkid wrote:...no one can work with Eldritch for very long...
Chris was in the band for ~15 years and Ben's not far behind. Just sayin'.
we've been friends for nearly 15 years Mark and although we've only met up on a handful of occasions i'd say that you probably have the measure of me personality-wise, warts and all.
HOWEVER if i were to crash on your sofa for JUST ONE WEEK you would be happy to see the back of me. in the nicest possible way natch. :P :kiss:
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But Genevieve & I Will Call You are fabulous; just like Show Me, Better Reptile, Instrumental & Kickline last tour. The jury's out 'Still' on the Black Sail but l've only listened to it a few hundred times and sometimes these things have to grow on me.

Regardless of all that : what a fucking AWESOME time to be a Sisters fan! :von:
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I will call you is really really good.

All the new tracks are good, but two or three are REALLY good. I listened to Black Sail and I thought it sounded a little . . . unfinished. I thought the drum pattern was quite monotonous and simple but actually, having listened to I Will Call You, which is much more polished, I think it's deliberate.

If these were sat next to each other on an album, they'd provide contrast. The boys have clearly been actually quite hard at work.

New sisters music - and a lot of it. Who'd have thought it.
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eastmidswhizzkid wrote:
Regardless of all that : what a fucking AWESOME time to be a Sisters fan! :von:
Can we Pin this somewhere to see it for some time :notworthy:
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iesus wrote:
eastmidswhizzkid wrote:
Regardless of all that : what a fucking AWESOME time to be a Sisters fan! :von:
Can we Pin this somewhere to see it for some time :notworthy:
Damn straight bro! 8)
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The new new songs are on constant rotation this morning as I work.

it's got me thinking. This is really the fifth album we're getting now, if the previous batch of 'new' songs (Summer, Crash and Burn, Suzanne etc) been recorded.
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I also just want to say thank you to the people taping these new songs and posting them on youtube.

Is Ingo Wenemaring on here? If he is, I have a request - could you post the best versions of the new new songs in a single playlist so I can just hit play and let it run?

That would be awesome!
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Todashi wrote:The new new songs are on constant rotation this morning as I work.

it's got me thinking. This is really the fifth album we're getting now, if the previous batch of 'new' songs (Summer, Crash and Burn, Suzanne etc) been recorded.
A better reality, for sure. I'd love to hear all of this stuff done up right in the studio.
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For me, new songs has some 84/85 flavor with a fresh air. Very curious to hear them with a studio sound.
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I do like new songs, partly because they're new, but mostly because of quality, it's not simple chugg-chugga as arms (guitar if stolen is less obvious). Black Sail is particulary catchy and good.
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De gustibus non est disputandum.
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Bartek wrote:De gustibus non est disputandum.
Nice line - I'll remember that one :notworthy:
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