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PostPost #1  Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:34 pm    Post subject: Videos ...-1985 Reply with quote Back to top

let's make the list of all videos from that era available
updates in this post

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1983

Glasgow, Nightmoves, 01.04.1983 (1) (2)
01. Kiss the Carpet
02. Anaconda
03. Alice
04. Adrenochrome
05. Valentine
06. Burn
07. Jolene
08. Floorshow
09. Heartland
10. Body Electric
11. Lights
12. Gimme Shelter

Peterborough, University, 23.04.1983 (1) (2)
01. Burn
02. Heartland
03. Valentine
04. Jolene
05. Adrenochrome
06. Floorshow
07. Body Electric
08. Gimme Shelter
09. Ghostrider/Sister Ray

London, Brixton Ace, 29.06.1983 (1) (2) (3)
01. Kiss the Carpet
02. Alice
03. Anaconda
04. Valentine
05. Jolene
06. Heartland
07. Adrenochrome
08. Gimme Shelter
09. Emma

Amsterdam, Paradiso, 28.08.1983 (1)
01. Emma (soundcheck)

Berlin, Loft Club, 30.08.1983 (1)
01. Kiss the Carpet
02. Body Electric
03. Floorshow


1984

Chicago, Exit Club, 15.04.1984 (1)
01. Heartland
02. Walk Away
03. Anaconda
04. Body and Soul
05. Floorshow
06. Emma
07. Adrenochrome
08. Alice
09. Gimme Gimme Gimme
10. Body Electric
11. Sister Ray

York, Racecourse Festival, 22.09.1984 (1) (2) (3) (4)
(distant footage)
01. Burn
02. Heartland
03. Marian
04. Anaconda
05. Walk Away
06. Emma
07. A Rock and a Hard Place
08. Floorshow
09. Alice
10. Body Electric
11. Gimme Shelter
12. Ghostrider/Sister Ray

(shot from side of stage) (3)
01. A Rock and a Hard Place
02. Floorshow
03. Alice

Body and Soul promo video (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) - date?

Walk Away promo video (2 versions) (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) - date?

NDR (German TV) xx.11.1984 (1)
interview with Andrew in London (mostly overdubbed in German) 4:43

Maxim Gorki, Stuttgart, 12.11.1984 (1) (2)
1 source (1)
01. Burn
02. Heartland
03. Marian
04. Walk Away
05. Body and Soul
06. No Time to Cry
07. Anaconda
08. A Rock and a Hard Place
09. Floorshow
10. Body Electric
11. Gimme Shelter
12. Knocking on Heaven's Door
13. Sister Ray

2 source (2)
01. Burn
02. Heartland
03. Marian
04. Walk Away
05. Body and Soul
06. No Time to Cry
07. Anaconda
08. Emma
09. A Rock and a Hard Place
10. Train
11. Floorshow
12. Alice
13. Body Electric
14. Gimme Shelter
15. Knocking on Heaven's Door
16. Sister Ray



1985

No Time to Cry promo video (1) (2) (3) (4) - date?

Old Grey Whistle Test, BBC Studio, London, 02.04.1985 (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6)
01. First and Last and Always
02. Marian

Newcastle, Tiffany's, 13.03.1985 (rumoured)

Interview at Villa Tempo, BRT1 (Belgium), 12.04.1985 (1) (2) (3) (4)
interview with Andrew Eldritch; That Guitarist and Craig Adams are lurking in the background, but are rarely in the picture (2:40)

Formel Eins, German TV, 16.04.1985 (1) (2)
01. No Time to Cry (playback)

Long Beach, Fender's Ballroom, 30.05.1985 (1)
01. First and Last and Always
02. Body and Soul
03. Marian
04. No Time to Cry
05. Walk Away
06. Emma
07. Amphetamine Logic
08. A Rock and a Hard Place
09. Floorshow
10. Alice
11. Gimme Shelter

Black Planet promo video (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7)
filmed at Ventura Freeway, USA, 31.05.1985

San Francisco, Kabuki Theater, 01.06.1985 (rumoured)

Royal Albert Hall, London, 18.06.1985 (1) (2) (3) (4) (5)
Wake - official (1) (2) (3)
01. First and Last and Always
02. Body and Soul
03. Marian
04. No Time to Cry
05. Walk Away
06. Possession
07. Emma
08. Amphetamine Logic
09. A Rock and a Hard Place
10. Floorshow
11. Alice
12. Fix
13. Knockin' on Heaven's Door

Wake - Craig Adams' copy (5)
slightly different from the official, earlier edit

audience (4)
01. First and Last and Always
02. Body and Soul
03. Marian
04. No Time to Cry
05. Walk Away
06. Possession
07. Emma
08. Amphetamine Logic
09. A Rock and a Hard Place
10. Floorshow
11. Alice
12. Gimme Shelter
13. Fix
14. Knockin' on Heaven's Door
15. Train
16. Ghostrider/Louie Louie

WEA conference video (1) (2)
Andrew Eldritch introducing "No Time to Cry" from the "Wake" video (1)
and
Eldritch presents (2)
are they the same?
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PostPost #2  Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Do you mean concerts that were videoed?
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PostPost #3  Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

if he means promo videos, they're all listed on the sister wiki

http://www.sisterswiki.org/index.php/Music_Videos

otherwise, if he means live concert footage, the weeding list probably gives as good an indication of whats around as anything Laughing

and if its not on the weeding list, i think its likely restricted to a few hardcore traders' "not for trade" lists, so not really worth getting excited about as you'll never see it...
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PostPost #4  Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

i mean live recordings and interviews
'never see' stuff is preferred to be mentioned, too
soo... anyone to enumerate?
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PostPost #5  Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

updated
i've got some questions:
WEA conference video
Andrew Eldritch introducing "No Time to Cry" from the "Wake" video
and
Eldritch presents
are they the same?

dates (approximate or month, at least) for promo videos

date for OGWT session

tracklists for Amsterdam and Berlin 1983

York 1984: which is the full footage - distant or side?

yeah, and do you recall any videos, which are not mentioned here?
you can also dig up your DVDs and tell me how long those record last
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PostPost #6  Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

if i understand what recordings you mean, "eldritch presents" is an audio recording of a radio show from circa 1984 where eldritch introduces his favourite ten songs (not sisters songs)...

the "introducing no time to cry" was a brief bit of promo video footage recorded for the american (i think?) market
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PostPost #7  Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Videos ...-1985 Reply with quote Back to top

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York, Racecourse Festival, 22.09.1984

(shot from side of stage)
01. Anaconda
02. Emma
03. A Rock and a Hard Place
04. Alice

(distant footage)
01. Floorshow
02. Body Electric
03. Ghostrider/Sister Ray



never heard about this one before

only have rock & hard place, floorshow, alice (shot from side of stage)
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PostPost #8  Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Videos ...-1985 Reply with quote Back to top

updated again

Quiff Boy wrote:
if i understand what recordings you mean, "eldritch presents" is an audio recording of a radio show from circa 1984 where eldritch introduces his favourite ten songs (not sisters songs)...

taken from here
http://myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=8102
and here
http://myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=6140
btw you could ask Mr.Marx whether he can tell anything about the footages featuring him

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York, Racecourse Festival, 22.09.1984

(shot from side of stage)
01. Anaconda
02. Emma
03. A Rock and a Hard Place
04. Alice

(distant footage)
01. Floorshow
02. Body Electric
03. Ghostrider/Sister Ray



never heard about this one before

only have rock & hard place, floorshow, alice (shot from side of stage)

watch the update
source links included
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PostPost #9  Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Sister's DVDs at TapeTrader.com

most of the stuff is available there, even Stuttgart 1984, leaked here only the last week
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PostPost #10  Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

San Francisco -85 seems to exist, and what about the elusive Newcastle-85? Laughing
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PostPost #11  Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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PostPost #12  Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Videos ...-1985 Reply with quote Back to top

sisterstekland wrote:
ormfdmrush wrote:


York, Racecourse Festival, 22.09.1984

(shot from side of stage)
01. Anaconda
02. Emma
03. A Rock and a Hard Place
04. Alice

(distant footage)
01. Floorshow
02. Body Electric
03. Ghostrider/Sister Ray



never heard about this one before

only have rock & hard place, floorshow, alice (shot from side of stage)

yeah and that's all.
paul got only two version so what is the point with that links?
"York Racecourse Festival (2 diff.)"
full recording from distance (very boring) and second - 3 tracks from side of stage (very interesting).
or i'm wrong?
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PostPost #13  Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Amsterdam, Paradiso, 28.08.1983 soundcheck must be emma.
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PostPost #14  Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

i've seen lots of York sources in lists, different tracklists
sometimes (and in other shows, too) songs are missing or cut
so i try to write only reasonable things
which are the most complete versions of York footages?
post tracklists, please, too
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PostPost #15  Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I like the fact that you are siting your sources here. We are not worthy!

As for additional information, looks at the link which lachert offered for a copy of Christer's old sisterstrading.com site. Christer listed what he had on video and what he still was hunting.
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PostPost #16  Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

you're welcome We are not worthy!
actually i'm of a greedy kind and want people to share that stuff with me Laughing
to own and to compare - so much different copies...
any volunteers? It wasn't me...
i can even bother to upload some of my DVDs to RapidShare
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PostPost #17  Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

York 22.09.1984
As far as i know there's only 2 versions of this. Full gig from far away, 3 songs closeup - Rock & A Hard Place/Floorshow/Alice - A friends cousin said her friend filmed it, and only filmed those 3 songs because they were filming a little bit of every band at the festival and only had enough tape/batteries to do 3 songs of each.

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(shot from side of stage) (4)
01. Anaconda
02. Emma
03. A Rock and a Hard Place
04. Alice

(distant footage) (4)
01. Floorshow
02. Body Electric
03. Ghostrider/Sister Ray

Do you have any evidence of these? I think the first one is wrong. I'm assuming the distant footage will be an incomplete version of the full gig (which is also distant footage).


NDR (German TV) Nov'84 - Interview with Andy in London (mostly overdubbed in German) 5 min

Old Grey Whistle Test, BBC Studio, London, 02.04.1985
Filmed 2.4.85, broadcast (I think) 4.4.85

Interview at Villa Tempo, BRT1 (Belgium), 14.04.1985
Are you sure, I have this down as 12.4.85

Formel Eins, German TV, xx.04.1985 or xx.05.1985
I have this as 16.4.85

Black Planet promo video
Filmed 31.5.85 Ventura Freeway, USA
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PostPost #18  Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

thanks, updated the post
added Craig Adams' copy also
York: those controversial lists are taken from Visions Of Mercy DVD (sorry, first i mentioned a wrong source - now it's fixed)
check it
i just gather the information Wink
so you say you own that 1984 interview?

now i'm looking for the lowest possible generation copies to transfer them into digital properly - DVD recorder rips are not so good for editing, improving, etc.
so some experienced UK fans could help me (PM and so on)
what about you? Very Happy
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PostPost #19  Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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York: those controversial lists are taken from Visions Of Mercy DVD

Have you seen the DVD? I've never heard of any other sources before. It'd be nice to have confirmation from someone who's seen it.

ormfdmrush wrote:
so you say you own that 1984 interview?

Yeah. It's b&w and the worst quality ever. I'll try and make a video capture.
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PostPost #20  Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

i saw "visions of mercy". it is incomplete distance one and nothing more Confused
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PostPost #21  Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Dan wrote:
ormfdmrush wrote:
York: those controversial lists are taken from Visions Of Mercy DVD

Have you seen the DVD? I've never heard of any other sources before. It'd be nice to have confirmation from someone who's seen it.

i haven't watched it myself yet, but it's available here

could you, please, send me your list?
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PostPost #22  Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

lachert wrote:
i saw "visions of mercy". it is incomplete distance one and nothing more Confused

really strange
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PostPost #23  Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Embarassed sorry, alice is from right side of the stage Very Happy but it is the same source as these three knowing tracks...
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PostPost #24  Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

trust me, Anaconda, Emma, A Rock and a Hard Place is distance shot. i just watching it right now Wink i've got somewhere these 3 tracks from right side of the stage (from matt) but on vhs. and all in colour! Very Happy
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PostPost #25  Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Dan wrote:
York 22.09.1984
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A friends cousin said her friend filmed it, and only filmed those 3 songs because they were filming a little bit of every band at the festival and only had enough tape/batteries to do 3 songs of each.


do they have the 3 tracks of the chameleons playing? Surprised
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