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PostPost #26  Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I emailed em to you. Theres 2 scans, each one around 500-600k. They couldn't be any smaller or the text wouldn't be readable.
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PostPost #27  Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Dan wrote:
I emailed em to you. Theres 2 scans, each one around 500-600k. They couldn't be any smaller or the text wouldn't be readable.

done. Smile

http://www.myheartland.co.uk/bengunn/

cheers dan We are not worthy!

click on the "small" versions for full 150 dpi scans (approx 600k each).

be warned, even the "small" versions are quite big at 250k each.

if you are on dialup, be prepared to wait a while Wink
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PostPost #28  Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The smaller images do not appear but the following do:

http://www.myheartland.co.uk/bengunn/bengunn1.jpg
http://www.myheartland.co.uk/bengunn/bengunn2.jpg

Wonder if dear Jayne ever had a proper career in journalism.

Thanks for the scans Dave!
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PostPost #29  Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2003 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Just to confirm the rumour: Ben (Matthews) Gunn WAS at Liverpool University, at the same time I was (84-87). In fact, he loved nothing more than to amuse the babygoths by walking round with a book 'How to play guitar' sticking out of his bag.
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PostPost #30  Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Far be it from me to divulge personal details about ex-band members.... but if you want to see what Ben says he's doing now you could do worse than have a look at Liverpool University, 1987, on the Friends Reunited website.
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PostPost #31  Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Karst wrote:
The smaller images do not appear but the following do:

http://www.myheartland.co.uk/bengunn/bengunn1.jpg
http://www.myheartland.co.uk/bengunn/bengunn2.jpg

Wonder if dear Jayne ever had a proper career in journalism.

Thanks for the scans Dave!


http://www.myheartland.co.uk/images/bengunn/ should do the trick Smile

the small ones do appear, they just take a while coz they aint really that small Wink
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PostPost #32  Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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Far be it from me to divulge personal details about ex-band members.... but if you want to see what Ben says he's doing now you could do worse than have a look at Liverpool University, 1987, on the Friends Reunited website.


http://www.friendsreunited.co.uk/FriendsReunited.asp?wci=membernotes&member_key=714940&Year=1987&school_key=16015 Question
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PostPost #33  Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2003 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks for adding the above web address, QB.

Now, under NO circumstances is anyone to use the 'send a voice message to Ben' facility pretending to be Von asking Ben to rejoin the band. That would be awfully childish.
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PostPost #34  Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

How could he call his daughter Olive? Thats just mean.
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PostPost #35  Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Quiff Boy wrote:
Gripper wrote:
Far be it from me to divulge personal details about ex-band members.... but if you want to see what Ben says he's doing now you could do worse than have a look at Liverpool University, 1987, on the Friends Reunited website.


http://www.friendsreunited.co.uk/FriendsReunited.asp?wci=membernotes&member_key=714940&Year=1987&school_key=16015 Question

Is he real Ben Mattews?
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PostPost #36  Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I remember some "friend" trying to convince me that the guy who used to work the mixing/lighting desk in The Duchess was actually Ben Gunn.

I wasn't convinced Very Happy
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PostPost #37  Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

markfiend wrote:
I remember some "friend" trying to convince me that the guy who used to work the mixing/lighting desk in The Duchess was actually Ben Gunn.

I wasn't convinced Very Happy


Nah, I remember that guy. He was called Flat Nose John.
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PostPost #38  Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

*bump*

hmmm, anyone seen dan recently? probably a longshot but just wondering if he still has the 2 ben gunn scans Question

i dont have the original email anymore.... 2003 was at least 2 pcs and a mac ago Embarassed Laughing
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PostPost #39  Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Another *bump*!!

I'd love to have a look at those scans / interview if anyone still has them?
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PostPost #40  Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

By the way, did anyone ever find out who Ben Gunn is these days? Laughing
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PostPost #41  Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Quiff Boy wrote:
*bump*

hmmm, anyone seen dan recently? probably a longshot but just wondering if he still has the 2 ben gunn scans Question

i dont have the original email anymore.... 2003 was at least 2 pcs and a mac ago Embarassed Laughing


Are these the ones you mean?
http://www.ultimatesistersguide.org/images/mag/time_forgot.jpg
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PostPost #42  Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Found this blog about the Anabas singles, if anyone should be interested.

Also I've say adjusted the Wiki Page ... Laughing ...
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PostPost #43  Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I have a mate who was good friends with Ben in 1982/83. Interesting times Laughing
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PostPost #44  Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Aaaaaand - look wot I just found: http://jasonbarnard.com/stanley-the-counting-horse/
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PostPost #45  Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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Aaaaaand - look wot I just found: http://jasonbarnard.com/stanley-the-counting-horse/


Great find ! And to think that I voted for this guy as greatest Sisters guitarist. It looks like watching the original Stanley would have been more entertaining than that lot.
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PostPost #46  Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:
mh wrote:
Aaaaaand - look wot I just found: http://jasonbarnard.com/stanley-the-counting-horse/


Great find ! And to think that I voted for this guy as greatest Sisters guitarist. It looks like watching the original Stanley would have been more entertaining than that lot.

Laughing

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http://jasonbarnard.com/stanley-more-entertaining-than-the-sisters-of-mercy/
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PostPost #47  Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Mothra wrote:
Quiff Boy wrote:
*bump*

hmmm, anyone seen dan recently? probably a longshot but just wondering if he still has the 2 ben gunn scans Question

i dont have the original email anymore.... 2003 was at least 2 pcs and a mac ago Embarassed Laughing


Are these the ones you mean?
http://www.ultimatesistersguide.org/images/mag/time_forgot.jpg

Yeah that's the same article I posted. No point me scanning it again as it wouldn't look any better than that.
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PostPost #48  Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Quiff Boy wrote:
Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:
mh wrote:
Aaaaaand - look wot I just found: http://jasonbarnard.com/stanley-the-counting-horse/


Great find ! And to think that I voted for this guy as greatest Sisters guitarist. It looks like watching the original Stanley would have been more entertaining than that lot.

Laughing

you've been rumbled mate Mr. Green

http://jasonbarnard.com/stanley-more-entertaining-than-the-sisters-of-mercy/


Well it's the first time I've been (deliberately ?) misquoted ! Whilst I was clearly stating that watching a police horse stamping his foot would be more enjoyable than having to sit through a gig by the band of the same name, with clever editing I appear to be saying that said band were better than the Sisters. And people wonder why Our fearless leader! doesn't enjoy interviews.
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PostPost #49  Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Did Ben really write the riff to Alice?

I know him & Von had to settle up financially after SGWBM came out (Ben getting less than he asked for but more than Von thought he was worth from memory?), but I always figured that just meant that he felt he was entitled to some money from being on what was at the time a top 5 UK album. But the riff to Alice is pretty timeless/classic/insert-cliche-as-you-see-fit(!).

No sign of his name on the writing credits on the CD, but that would explain why he contacted Von after a long time without their paths crossing - surely a lot of people purchased the compilation so as to own a copy of that one song in particular?
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PostPost #50  Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Mothra wrote:
Did Ben really write the riff to Alice?

I know him & Von had to settle up financially after SGWBM came out (Ben getting less than he asked for but more than Von thought he was worth from memory?), but I always figured that just meant that he felt he was entitled to some money from being on what was at the time a top 5 UK album. But the riff to Alice is pretty timeless/classic/insert-cliche-as-you-see-fit(!).

No sign of his name on the writing credits on the CD, but that would explain why he contacted Von after a long time without their paths crossing - surely a lot of people purchased the compilation so as to own a copy of that one song in particular?

It would be up to the record company, rather than Von, to issue royalties to the performers so that's unlikely to be the reason for any financial settlement between the two men as Ben is mentioned in the credits (although not specifically as a performer so it's just possible that Von neglected to point out that Ben was due a share).

On the other hand, the writing is credited solely to Von, which means he's been receiving sole royalties for it. If Ben got him to admit to co-authorship then Von would have to pay Ben out of his own pocket as he'd already received all the money.

The fly in that ointment is that Von once implied that his publishers owned the entire rights to his songs. He didn't say when that started and it may well only refer to songs published after they got a major deal but if Alice was included then it would be up to the publishers to settle.
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