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October 5th: Club Barby, Tel-Aviv Israel
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PostPost #1  Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:51 am    Post subject: October 5th: Club Barby, Tel-Aviv Israel Reply with quote Back to top

http://m.ynet.co.il/Articles/4981973

Tickets here

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PostPost #2  Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:34 am    Post subject: Re: October 5th - Tel-Aviv Reply with quote Back to top

vicus wrote:
http://m.ynet.co.il/Articles/4981973


Surprise ... Laughing ... and it is already listed on the venue's page - Thu, 5 October 2017 - Barby Club, Tel Aviv ... *fortunately, they have a "Translate" function there ...

Tickets also available from the venue's website ... https://www.barby.co.il/hazmen_cards.aspx?id=1838&fr=1
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PostPost #3  Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

And It's official! That was fast!

http://www.the-sisters-of-mercy.com/news/livenews.shtml
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PostPost #4  Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I wonder when Roger Waters will phone Our fearless leader! about this one.
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PostPost #5  Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Pista wrote:
I wonder when Roger Waters will phone Our fearless leader! about this one.

Yeah, BDS is definitely an issue, like with South Africa back in the days ... personally, I'm somewhat undecided about the cultural part of it ... and because Ofra Haza was one of the best things to happen, both to The Sisters of Mercy and Israel ...
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PostPost #6  Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Being645 wrote:
Ofra Haza was one of the best things to happen, both to The Sisters of Mercy and Israel ...


She wasn't the best thing to happen to The Sisters at all. Wailing harpy if you ask me. Ruined my favourite Sisters song Evil or Very Mad

But that's a different discussion Wink
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PostPost #7  Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

They could have write one other new song for that cooperation and sound better. At least i agree with Steve on this and had that opinion since day 1 of hearing it on MTV.
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PostPost #8  Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

[quote="Pista"]
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She wasn't the best thing to happen to The Sisters at all. Wailing harpy if you ask me. Ruined my favourite Sisters song Evil or Very Mad

But that's a different discussion Wink


So regarding this other discussion: its not her who did a bad job, its some of the music bits which do not get to the point. It could have been brutally excellent. With some of the 93 live parts it indeed were better. But, i still mostly like it, sometimes.
The original belongs to 83 and got stuck there.
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PostPost #9  Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

jost 7 wrote:
It could have been brutally excellent. With some of the 93 live parts it indeed were better.


Sounds like a Project Kiss Kass Remix challenge It wasn't me... Laughing
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PostPost #10  Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

jost 7 wrote:
Pista wrote:
Being645 wrote:
Ofra Haza was one of the best things to happen, both to The Sisters of Mercy and Israel ...

She wasn't the best thing to happen to The Sisters at all. Wailing harpy if you ask me. Ruined my favourite Sisters song Evil or Very Mad

But that's a different discussion Wink

So regarding this other discussion: its not her who did a bad job, its some of the music bits which do not get to the point. It could have been brutally excellent. With some of the 93 live parts it indeed were better. But, i still mostly like it, sometimes.
The original belongs to 83 and got stuck there.


The 1992 original is an original in itself. It is a different song, very different, IMO, up-to-date at the time,
just as much as deeply rooted in The Sisters' tradition up to its release, Floodland included. And I like it... Mr. Green Laughing ...


@Pista
Calling that voice a wailing harpy ... Laughing ... of course, the song didn't leave her much opportunity
not to sound somewhat like that, but I think she clearly managed to escape the cliché ... Wink ...
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PostPost #11  Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Re Ofra Haza vs. The Sisters...

I think Luciano Pavarotti was an amazing singer.
I think The Safety Dance by Men Without Hats is a superb song.

Now put those two together and you have one of the World Wonders, right?

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PostPost #12  Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Leaving aside Ofra's vocals, i really love the 92 version.

I also really like the original but i'm gonna be controversial and say i prefer 92 more. Twisted Evil
I really wish that version was available without her vocals, now that would be awesome Very Happy

And can i just say @Izzy - i am so pleased to see someone else also has love for The Safety Dance. Laughing
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PostPost #13  Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Another Safety Dancer over here, great tune.
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PostPost #14  Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

safety dance = check.
TOL 83 is FAR superior to 92, even allowing for our dear departed Ofra's AWESOME ethereal vocals (which definitely only improve '92 ...if '83 wasnt perfect her vocals could improve that but it is perfect so there.)

look - '82 alice is perfect but '93 version has enough good s**t that '82 doesnt that it is totally valid. Our fearless leader!

EDIT: if eldritch wanted to re-record his entire back catalogue in a barber-shop stylee it wouldnt hurt the originals and would be better than releasing FUCK ALL.
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PostPost #15  Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jul/12/thom-yorke-radiohead-ken-loach-criticises-israel-gig
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PostPost #16  Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Counterpoint

I'm disappointed that The Sisters are playing in Israel.
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PostPost #17  Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Me too.
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PostPost #18  Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

markfiend wrote:
Counterpoint

I'm disappointed that The Sisters are playing in Israel.


So, i guess that USA tour in 2006, and 1991 were also wrong (wars started by USA), in Hungary, when Orban is president, Russia under Putin/Medvedev or Poland under current gov.
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PostPost #19  Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

It's not the same thing at all. The people of those countries have not asked for a boycott; the people of Palestine have.
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PostPost #20  Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Just to be clear, i think what Isreal's gov. does with Palestinians is horrible and should be condemned, but not playing gigs because citizens of other country ask to do so, well, that's whole new thing. It reminds a bit situation in RSA in 80's.

I could not criticise TSOM and any other band or musicans for playing there, it's up to their free will. After all we can pressume that AE is against what State of Isreal does with Palestinians; and being there allows AE (as well as any other artists), to speak up, say something form stage.
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PostPost #21  Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Bartek wrote:
Just to be clear, i think what Isreal's gov. does with Palestinians is horrible and should be condemned, but not playing gigs because citizens of other country ask to do so, well, that's whole new thing. It reminds a bit situation in RSA in 80's.

Exactly that is what it is about - Apartheid. In this case, Israeli Apartheid towards Palestinians ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boycott,_Divestment_and_Sanctions

Bartek wrote:

I could not criticise TSOM and any other band or musicans for playing there, it's up to their free will. After all we can pressume that AE is against what State of Isreal does with Palestinians; and being there allows AE (as well as any other artists), to speak up, say something form stage.

In the 70s/80s it was also not exactly well perceived for bands to play @Sun City ...

Heaven knows whether that really added up to the end of South African Apartheid, at least it brought the issue into public awareness again and again ... Wink ...

As for The Sisters, I wish they played Ramallah or Nablus as well ... Very Happy ...
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PostPost #22  Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thom Furhmann ex- Savage Republic wrote:

We play for people so they can forget about their governments for a couple hours. Why should a band punish their fans simply because of where they live! Ridiculous...
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PostPost #23  Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I was going to mention Sun City too.

And to be fair, how many Palestinians are likely to be allowed into the Tel-Aviv Club Barby?

But by opposing Israeli policy towards Palestine I'm sure I'm being one of those antisemitic leftists Rolling Eyes
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PostPost #24  Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

That's right, you antisemitic leftist.

I keep wonder, so are you gonna skip TSOM gigs in UK and elsewhere for the sake of protest against their gig in Tel-Aviv? Or no, because it's a different thing. And, was that issue when TSOM played in Isreal in 2006, 'cause i can't recall?
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PostPost #25  Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Oh I'd forgotten about them playing there previously Laughing

I'm not going to any of this year's gigs but that's not out of protest, it's because I have no money Laughing
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