the case of stephen morrissey versus andrew eldritch

Got any interesting thoughts on a set of lyrics? Any that don't involve the word "indeed"? Find yourself struggling to decipher all those obtuse references Von makes? Read "1959 And All That" and still no clearer? Nope, us neither. Postcards found lying in a skip around the back of the Chemists can be found here... Don't say you weren't warned.
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ever read or listened to the lyrics to the smiths' "cemetary gates"?

swap "Keats and Yeats" for "Elliot" and this could be about eldritch :lol:

especially this bit:
If you must write prose/poems
The words you use should be your own
Don't plagiarise or take "on loan"
'Cause there's always someone, somewhere
With a big nose, who knows
:lol: :twisted:

1959 and all that, indeed.

the words in full:
Mozza wrote:A dreaded sunny day
So I meet you at the cemetry gates
Keats and Yeats are on your side
A dreaded sunny day
So I meet you at the cemetry gates
Keats and Yeats are on your side
While Wilde is on mine

So we go inside and we gravely read the stones
All those people, all those lives
Where are they now ?
With loves, and hates
And passions just like mine
They were born
And then they lived
And then they died
It seems so unfair
I want to cry


You say : "'Ere thrice the sun done salutation to the dawn"
And you claim these words as your own
But I've read well, and I've heard them said
A hundred times (maybe less, maybe more)
If you must write prose/poems
The words you use should be your own
Don't plagiarise or take "on loan"
'Cause there's always someone, somewhere
With a big nose, who knows
And who trips you up and laughs
When you fall
Who'll trip you up and laugh
When you fall


You say : "'Ere long done do does did"
Words which could only be your own
And then produce the text
From whence was ripped
(Some dizzy whore, 1804)


A dreaded sunny day
So let's go where we're happy
And I meet you at the cemetry gates
Oh, Keats and Yeats are on your side
A dreaded sunny day
So let's go where we're wanted
And I meet you at the cemetry gates
Keats and Yeats are on your side
But you lose
'Cause weird lover Wilde is on mine
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Now what the Image would Eldritch be doing near a cemetary? :innocent:
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
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john langford still likes him :lol: :lol:
And now he is the Prince of Darkness
He holds old friends in such high esteem
He sees a red town and wants it painted black
For the Catholic girls at Halloween

Well he said to me, "I've waited seven years
And I am a very patient man
After all those things that we've gone and done
I still need someone to tell"

His pleasures were a mystery to us all
You'd never see him out after dawn
In a German seaport town he takes his coffee in the red-light
And now he is the Prince of Darkness
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markfiend wrote:Now what the Image would Eldritch be doing near a cemetary? :innocent:
http://www.myheartland.co.uk/gallery/de ... age_id=231
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Quiff Boy wrote:ever read or listened to the lyrics to the smiths' "cemetary gates"?

swap "Keats and Yeats" for "Elliot" and this could be about eldritch :lol:
And if you substituted the words "Shelagh" and "Delaney", to whom might this also apply?
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Ripped or reconfigured though?
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Still after all these years narked that i couldn't get to the Sisters/Smiths gig. The two best bands ever in me humble opinion! :notworthy:
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Both of them are so good at putting interviewers in their place in their own subtle way (well, maybe not so subtle).

Both are masters of the English language when it comes to synicism & whit.

Both write great songs that are sometimes hard to figure out but sometimes don't need to be thought about.

Personally, I can't choose one over the other as to who is the better entertainer so I don't think of them in that regard.

To me they're both great and are 2 of my favourite singer/songwriters.
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Kerry and I were round a friend's house drinking and watching a load of old Smiths videos, interviews, and live performances on Friday, we were up until about 4 am. :lol:
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if you need to talk mark I'm here for ya :lol:
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It's OK, I can handle it :lol:
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markfiend wrote:Kerry and I were round a friend's house drinking and watching a load of old Smiths videos, interviews, and live performances on Friday, we were up until about 4 am. :lol:
So it was a case of There was a light that didn't go out :lol: :lol:

Yes, I've done the same thing.
Morrissey's light will never go out.
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And when we got home we decided another bottle of wine would be a good idea.

Neither of us were very well on Saturday :urff: :lol:
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Every day is like a Sunday :lol:
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By the side of the ocean, headed for Sunset

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not very goth, jist miserable I take a dim view of this sort of thing :|

down with it etc.
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I once had a friend try to persuade me that The Smiths were a goth band.

???
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I once had a girlfriend in a graveyard.
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after you put her in a coma, i imagine? ;D


sorry, couldn't resist :oops:


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Not at all, it was really Serious
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By the cemetetry gates
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oh deary me :eek:

and there was me thinking you were only joking when you said you'd like to smash every tooth in her head.
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She still has a fine set of teeth so I'm told, thanks for the concern
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under the iron bridge you kissed, and 'tho you ended up with sore lips it just wasn't like the old days anymore

yeah?
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Nothing remains ... on Sunday ... :wink: ...
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markfiend wrote:I once had a friend try to persuade me that The Smiths were a goth band.

???
1980s, North of England, frilly shirts, flowers, depression, cemeteries...

What are we missing? :innocent:
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