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PostPost #1  Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:13 pm    Post subject: Afterhours Reply with quote Back to top

It's about a suspected Heroin user being arrested by the police afterhours, isn't it?

This is one of the few Sisters' songs which I'm convinced is about Heroin and not amphetamines.

Quote:
one more night spent on your mirror

A self explanatory reference to cutting and snorting Heroin, speed or coke on a mirror.

Quote:
black maria

clicky

Quote:
in your eyes
this stuff so strange and lonely


my dictionary wrote:
Stuff
5. offensive term:

an offensive term meaning to have sex with a woman
9. drugs:
a drug, especially Heroin


I reckon it means the latter, but it could be the former or both.

Quote:
England fades away
in your eyes


Tunnel vision caused by the Heroin.

Quote:
two o'clock in the morning
ninety-four degrees

through the stillness through the heat
the cars go by on Fifth and
breathing slow


Helps sets the scene and atmosphere for the reader/listener.

Police cars?


Quote:
get up off the floor and angel
put your clothes on
it's time for us to go

let's take a ride


This part should be in Quotation marks. I believe it is the Heroin user being arrested and that it's a cop telling her it's time to go...

Von wrote:
one more night spent on your mirror
black maria, in your eyes
this stuff so strange and lonely
England fades away
in your eyes

two o'clock in the morning
ninety-four degrees

through the stillness through the heat
the cars go by on Fifth and
breathing slow
get up off the floor and angel
put your clothes on
it's time for us to go

let's take a ride


Any ideas about what it's about?
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PostPost #2  Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I always thought it was a song that described a speed junkie late at night, not being able to sleep, during his come-down.

Bizarrely, I am reminded of New Model Army:

Four o' clock in the morning and still we can not sleep
Turning over, turning round, twisting in our sweat
They say there is No Rest for the wicked ones
Dear God, what have we done?

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PostPost #3  Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Dark wrote:
I always thought it was a song that described a speed junkie late at night, not being able to sleep, during his come-down.

Bizarrely, I am reminded of New Model Army:

Four o' clock in the morning and still we can not sleep
Turning over, turning round, twisting in our sweat
They say there is No Rest for the wicked ones
Dear God, what have we done?


Makes more sense than my idea. The thing that gave me the idea about the police was the line black maria. what do you think he means by it?
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PostPost #4  Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Some Sisters interview from 1984 :

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INT: And Afterhours is really quite good. 94 degrees and 2 o'clock in the morning? Or something? Pretty, quite. Sounds like it's in the middle of a city or something, very very hot, very...
AE: 44th street. Yeah. But I shifted it a few blocks down so I wouldn't actually get pinned down to the actual occurrence which lead to that being written.
INT: That was in the New York Hotel was it?
AE: Yeah. You can tell can't you? I mean there's so much amphetamine. To me that song is pure amphetamine. It's the most amphetamine sort of, song ever, it works in a completely different time scale to everything else. It's not the sort of all-out gonzo amphetamine song. Although we got a couple of those, but it's sort of one of those "tingle tingle tingle. Was that a minute or was that an hour?" songs. There's a lot of cars hiss by my window in it as well. Which is a very L.A. song and the thing which prompted the writing of Afterhours is very similar to something in L.A. which might have prompted the same song. So it's like L.A. and New York rolled into one.


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PostPost #5  Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

one more night spent on your mirror
black maria in your eyes


these two lines have always said speed to me.since the proliferation in the late seventies/early eighties of "brown",ie.smokable heroin,you hardly ever hear of anyone snorting smack-at least,not your average "lend us a tenner" street-junkie.
so "on your mirror"is speed or cocaine.

however, "one more night" sounds like hes been awake for several nights already and this is another;(rather than staying up all night taking drugs,then eventually crashing out at dawn) .
because coke is nowhere near as powerful a stimulant as amphetamine people dont tend to get as "strung-out" ,ie suffering from extreme sleep-deprivation;which is a feeling that this song's atmosphere conveys well.so yeah,its uncle andy singing about his"favourite favourite" again.(Logically) Wink


by the by,i like the ambiguity of the next two lines and how it can be read as it is stressed in the song
"so strange and lonely/
england fades away


or as
"so strange,and lonely england fades away"[/b]
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PostPost #6  Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I always saw "England fades away" as a reference to the idea that women shouldn't enjoy sex but instead should "lie back and think of England" It wasn't me...
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PostPost #7  Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Motz wrote:
I always saw "England fades away" as a reference to the idea that women shouldn't enjoy sex but instead should "lie back and think of England" It wasn't me...


Ah, finally someone going for the Eldo (=terribly funny) interpretation Laughing We are not worthy! (though the others are quite good too Wink )
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PostPost #8  Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thread necromancy city!

Just hit me that it's possible that this song is written from the perspective of a line of speed/coke/whatever.
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PostPost #9  Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:47 am    Post subject: Re: Afterhours Reply with quote Back to top

nick the stripper wrote:


my dictionary wrote:
Stuff
5. offensive term:

an offensive term meaning to have sex with a woman
9. drugs:
a drug, especially Heroin


I reckon it means the latter, but it could be the former or both.


Then:
Derek W. Dick alias Fish wrote:
Needles make love to the junky

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PostPost #10  Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

*ahem* Trust me on this, eastmidswhizzkid knows what this song is about.

You have to have been there. Wink
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PostPost #11  Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I don´t doubt that. I´ll rely on the tales from his journey there..
The Marillion quotation just jumped at me when I read Nick´s post.
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PostPost #12  Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Oh Marillion! Stupid me, I didn't get "Derek W. Dick alias Fish".
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PostPost #13  Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Surprised Rolling Eyes
You disapoint me!
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PostPost #14  Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Afterhours reminds me of the film Mulholland Drive.
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PostPost #15  Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Could be any drug, really. When I first heard 'Afterhours', it just was instant recognition of a song conveying a drug high, as I've had several times. In that respect, the song drives the point home entirely.
Interesting you're quoting 'The Web', Jümlaut. Those passages, also very subdued soundwise, also convey the use of, in this case, opiates and were a magnet to my state of mind even before I started to cruise through The Doors of Perception. Just writing about these songs bring back a lot of memories. What a way to start a new working week after a hazed week in Slovenia...
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PostPost #16  Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Afterhours is, and can only be, a speed come-down. Fact.

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PostPost #17  Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I'm not talking about the lyrics here, which are of course geared towards a speed comedown. I'm talking about the vibe, which could fit any, er, stimulated state of being. Or most of them anyway...

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PostPost #18  Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

OK. Fairy nuff then. Cool

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PostPost #19  Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

And we always thought the lyrics were:

FGG wrote:
Belgium Fades away
In your eyes...


Our bad Twisted Evil

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PostPost #20  Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Just listened to this again for the first time in ages-it's amazing -there's an entire movie in this song.
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PostPost #21  Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Afterhours Reply with quote Back to top

nick the stripper wrote:
This is one of the few Sisters' songs which I'm convinced is about Heroin and not amphetamines.

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PostPost #22  Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I think, referring this song to drug usage devaluates it somehow.
(Though, drug usage might have played a role when it was written.)

And of course, drug users are reminded of certain moments
... but these moments are encountered by non-users as well
... I think the point here is not the state of intoxication but the
state of loneliness.
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PostPost #23  Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Nadia81 wrote:
Just listened to this again for the first time in ages-it's amazing -there's an entire movie in this song.


I listen to Echoes IV primarily for the three versions of Afterhours...and I do so ridiculously often... Embarassed
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PostPost #24  Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

'fear and loathing' holds the majority of the key phrases of this song. great as it is We are not worthy!
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PostPost #25  Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Surprised ... read this in German at that time, so thanks for the reference.

Under circumstances as such, certain interpretations are self-explanatory ... Wink

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