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PostPost #1  Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:25 pm    Post subject: Come Together - Eldritch Finds God! Reply with quote Back to top

In the course of one of my many researches, I recently stumbled across
this:

Isaiah 1:18 (King James Authorised Version)

'Though your sins be as scarlet,
they shall be as white as snow;
though they be red like crimson,
they shall be as wool.'

Obvious connection to the line 'Though your fins be scarlet'.

The scarlet in question is related to prostitution, presumably another
pun on sister of mercy.

The above Biblical quote also forms the chorus of Original Trinity Hymnal # 465:

http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/t/h/thoyours.htm

Funky stuff! Wink
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PostPost #2  Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The Devil can cite scripture in his own defence Wink
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PostPost #3  Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Does anyone have the lyrics to 'Crash and Burn' figured out?
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PostPost #4  Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

simond666 wrote:
Does anyone have the lyrics to 'Crash and Burn' figured out?

Check the thread "Crash & Burn".
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PostPost #5  Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I meant 'Come Together' (ouch) It was a long day when I posted... If anybody tells me there already is a Come Together thread, I think I'll top myself! I've looked I tell thee!
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PostPost #6  Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

It would seem not, so feel free to do it. Here are some lines to get you going:

Some wild idea and I head back home
Swing low, sweet Jesus
Come to carry me
Carry me home
Swing low
Carry me home

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PostPost #7  Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

what the hell does 'Though your fins be scarlet' mean Question

Sometimes I hear 'Through your fins sweet scarlet' but that doesn't make sense either Confused
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PostPost #8  Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

l always heard it as sins.

The transcriptions for this song are quite possibly the dodgiest except for Still and it's been around for 13 years now Wierded Out
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PostPost #9  Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

and it's my favourite "new" song Sad
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PostPost #10  Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Quote:
Little child look up at the sky
A white wedding dress and a black maria
Some wild idea and I head back home
Swing low, sweet Jesus
Come to carry me
Carry me home
Swing low
Carry me home

Come together, home
Come together, home


Interesting pun. "Come Together"/"come to get her"

From here it gets dodgy, but "Though your fins be scarlet" sounds absolutely bang on (wish I'd discovered this thread before!)

Quote:
Carrion/Carry on/Carrying (Confused?) angel
No one can (hold??? haunt???) you down
Though your fins, though your fins be scarlet

Come together, home
Come together, home

Various whispery bits:
"khhhahhhhhhhh....!" etc

Though your fins, though your fins be scarlet

Come together, home
Come together, home

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PostPost #11  Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

According to the dictionary 'fins" can also mean : "The cardinal number that is the sum of four and one" And if you look up "Cardinal" you get; "A variable color averaging a vivid red" or (Roman Catholic Church) one of a group of more than 100 prominent bishops in the Sacred College who advise the Pope and elect new Popes. Still makes no sense, but great tune indeed, one of my faves..just wish I had a cd single of it ;>
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PostPost #12  Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Anyone know what he says in the first verse?
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PostPost #13  Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Approx:
A little child and a [cold missile]/[friendly smile]
I wipe her face, I dry her eyes
Some vile idea and head back home
To no sweet Jesus come to carry me home
Come to carry you home
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PostPost #14  Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Motz wrote:
Approx:
A little child and a [cold missile]/[friendly smile]
I wipe her face, I dry her eyes


Sounds about right.

Motz wrote:
Approx:
A little child and a [cold missile]/[friendly smile]
Some vile idea and head back home
To no sweet Jesus come to carry me home
Come to carry you home


I'm pretty sure its:
Some wild idea and I head back home,
Swing low, sweet Jesus...
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PostPost #15  Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Swing low sounds better, but I still think that the idea is "vile". Seems like a commentary on child abuse to me.

A little child and a friendly smile
I wipe her face, dry her eyes
Some vile idea, I head back home
Swing low, sweet Jesus...


Note the parallel to the Mish's "Amelia"

Daddy says "Dry your tears and give me a smile"
Daddy says "If you're good, I'll hold you a while"


Which incidentally is my favourite of Hussey's lyrical endeavours. When he cuts the pithy mystical crap, he can write damn fine songs Cool

The "swing low, sweet Jesus" and "though your sins be Scarlet" seem to be regarding an "Oh sh!t, what have I done?" moment. Probably not a perfect interpretation, but certainly not one which requires major leaps of logic.
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PostPost #16  Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I believe there are more parallels to "Driven like the Snow" than to "Amelia".
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PostPost #17  Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I'll be damned. From UTR.

'"Come Together" is a new song. Words and music by Andrew Eldritch. It's about taking acid and "merging" with the traffic on the freeway. "Though your fins be scarlet..."'

http://www.myheartland.co.uk/gallery/details.php?image_id=471&mode=search

I guess the statement of its being "about" something on a basic level still doesn't decipher what it's saying about/through it, though.

Isn't War On Drugs about the same thing, more or less?
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PostPost #18  Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I think you've linked the wrong page?

Anyway, for what it's worth, there is a chapter in 'fear and loathing' which seemed to me to fit the song very well. even to the specific wording, but it was a longtime ago now..
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PostPost #19  Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

It seems to go to the right place (Correspondence Thing, UTR #11, page 8), for my browser anyway - the short comment about Come Together is on the top left, Andrew answering a question from the previous page about whether this was a new Sisters song or a Beatles cover.

It's some direction for interpreting the song, at least. I thought scarlet fins/sins was used in the sense of the crossword clue for kingfish, and some symbolism related to the animal. Now it's a proper Sisters lyric.
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PostPost #20  Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

It's a very sweet and lovely song ... compared to facts that could emerge ... Eldritch in dreaming mode ... Wink ...
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PostPost #21  Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

robertzombie wrote:
what the hell does 'Though your fins be scarlet' mean Question



"Fin" means "the end" in French, if that helps...


But hey, Andrew knew God since he's born, or before; listen to "1959"! Smile

It's just that he's such a brave soul to have delved straight into the hell's ditch in order to illuminate it...

What we need to know about Andy is that he's basically waging the sacred war all his life (as most of the true artists).
A sort of as in this song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQVt377u8MI


where "strana ogromnaya" are all the world's people with heart and consciousness (aka white magicians), and "fashistska sila tyomnaya" would be - let's put it like this - self-proclaimed "chosen ones" (aka "black magicians").

Andy is, whatever some may say or think, a born protector of goodness, and has paid a high price for that (again, as many real artists - they were always the bravest people).

C'mon people - к победе!
Murphy's law works to our advancement!



* As for the sin topic, there are sins, "sins" and real sins. When the evidence comes along, it can easily happen just as the bible says "first will be last, and the opposite"... it seems to me more and more that it has to with whether we gave our best or not; on that one, the rockers will surely not be the last!

For instance, nowadays I feel like repenting very much to Andrew & Co. for not getting their full messages on a conscious level earlier... They were on the frontline where the ground is hard all alone for so long.... Crying or Very sad
Giving the best they could to fight for the cause, which is ours, too! Congrats guys for awakening people!

[This was all in accordance with the topic on finding God ]



(Folks, I'd recommend delving into Russian arts for those who want to better understand Andrew, because he obviously
contains Russian influence in himself (besides some Balkan's, as well). Wink
Not a bad idea to start with "The barber of Siberia", featuring Julia Ormond. )
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