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PostPost #451  Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

John, the smoke wasn't the issue in Leeds. As you well know, I couldn't care less how little I can see, smoke is good, dry ice is our friend, the prob on Wednesday was definitely the volume, and the apparent correlation between low volume and inaudible vocals.

Now I've seen this lot many times (WAY less than many, but hey), I know how they sound when they sound exceptional, I know how they sound when they sound average, unfortunately I also now know how they sound when they sound s**t.

The general Sisteryness otherwise was all there, smoke, lights, boingy pit. No problem.

This is really bugging me. Were they really as flat as they seemed? Must've been, the state I was in I'd've been dancing to the rugby league results on tv, let alone the Sisters. But it was bad. Trust me.
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PostPost #452  Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Ja, ja Ravey and sound was my next point. How can they go from Paris (big venue) sounding so perfect to sounding so shit? Do they suit the big venues or is Andy's voice just fucked? Ten gigs every two years ... or 50 in two months? And Ben and Chris have to dumb down the volume because what Andy says, Andy gets. Rolling Eyes

PS: Loved the my mate Ethan comment on the Leeds thread. Kiss
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PostPost #453  Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Johnny M wrote:
.... is Andy's voice just fucked? ... or 50 in two months?


Effect.........cause.

Simple as that I think, unfortunately.
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PostPost #454  Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Jebus.. just read the fricking Grauniad review...

"Tonight's ultra-rare show has dragged the bat people from their belfries "

I take great offence at that.. bat person? Pfft..!!

Looks like some hack still thinks the Sisters are the same band they were in 1983.. and as for having more songs like Alice.. wtf??

What about the two albums since?!?! (OK, I am one of those types that probably prefers the albums in the order of VT, Floodland then FALAA... so I'm biased..)

Gah! Where did I leave that stake.. someone deserves an impaling for this... Laughing
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PostPost #455  Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

during change over after The Ivories my friend sighed: "Gee, we're waiting for so long already and they didnt even mount the drum kit yet."

well you cant always choose your company. It wasn't me...


To her defense I must add, that she's much more handy in everything The Cure concerned. She even spotted Simon Gallup in the Astoria After Show crowd.
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PostPost #456  Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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jande wrote:
I see that a dvd of this gig has just been listed on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/THE-SISTERS-OF-MERCY-London-Fog-DVD-2006_W0QQitemZ7617104267QQcategoryZ58712QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Has anybody bought one of these DVD's yet? I'd be quite interested in getting one even though I went to the Norwich gig and not the London one......

Just wondering if it was filmed on a crappy phone or something. Neutral

edit: OK I've bitten the bullet and purchased one. I'll let you know whether it's any good when it arrives. Cool



Looking at the sellers other items, they seem to have an excellent track record in smuggling the camera into various London gigs.
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PostPost #457  Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah I was looking at his other stuff and from the pictures it looks like pretty good quality which makes me wonder if it's an inside job but who knows? Wink

The DVD should be here in a couple of days so we'll know soon enough. Cool
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PostPost #458  Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I finally got an email reply from the seller about the audio quality on the DVD and they said that it was very good so I guess you can always rip some mp3's from it Smile I'm just waiting on a copy of the Placebo gig to arrive from the same seller.
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PostPost #459  Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Rise&Reverberate wrote:
I finally got an email reply from the seller about the audio quality on the DVD and they said that it was very good so I guess you can always rip some mp3's from it Smile


I'm sure the DVD will be doing the rounds on here soon one way or another. Wink It wasn't me...
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PostPost #460  Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Rise&Reverberate wrote:
I finally got an email reply from the seller about the audio quality on the DVD and they said that it was very good so I guess you can always rip some mp3's from it Smile I'm just waiting on a copy of the Placebo gig to arrive from the same seller.


A very good reproduction of an inaudible gig then Laughing
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PostPost #461  Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ruffers wrote:
Rise&Reverberate wrote:
I finally got an email reply from the seller about the audio quality on the DVD and they said that it was very good so I guess you can always rip some mp3's from it Smile I'm just waiting on a copy of the Placebo gig to arrive from the same seller.


A very good reproduction of an inaudible gig then Laughing


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PostPost #462  Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Neither myself or my girlfriend had seen the Sisters live since Wembley 1990, so we were both really looking forward to this one, and were hugely disappointed.

We were standing about halfway back at ground level, centre stage. The dry ice was thick as expected, but I certainly didn't really care about that - I came to hear them, not admire Andrew's fur coat.

But the sound was awful. I go to quite a lot of gigs, but I've not heard sound as bad as that anywhere bar amateur nights in pubs... and even then only once or twice.

To me it sounded like they simply didn't have the ability - with the equipment they had - to fill the place with sound. A smaller venue maybe, but not the high-topped Astoria. Additionally the levels were messed up. I can accept that Von keeps the vocals ridiculously low these days, but when on a song like Suzanne - where in parts there's basically just the drum machine, a bassline, and a lead guitar part - you can't hear the lead guitar, then you know something is seriously f***d somewhere.

Anyway, as you all know, the crowd started chanting and gesticulating for the levels to be upped, and for a while things seemed to improve - around the time of Dominion I'd just call it a bit poor, rather than awful.... you still shouldn't be able to hear the crowd singing above the band playing in a venue that size.

So as I was saying, for a short period the sound was higher in volume, but by the time Romeo Down was played, it sounded to me like the bass speaker, or something driving it had simply blown... I have experience with bass speakers going, and that dreadful flapping noise sounded just like it.

Shortly after we both left, and didn't bother going to the Nottingham gig we had tickets for - because being so far away it simply wasn't worth the risk.

I'm not usually a moaner, and I don't hold grudges - I still love the Sisters and they'll always be one of my favourite bands of all time... but I have to be honest and tell it like it was!

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PostPost #463  Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

aye, i must admit i thought pretty much the same from the astoria Sad
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PostPost #464  Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I wasn't in the best spot to judge in the Astoria (up at the edge of the balcony over the right, peaking over shoulders (but closer to the bar)) but the sound was lousy most of the show. The Doktor blew everything away one minute, then you couldn't hear Ben at all for some bits, Eldritch was very, very low as in inaudible, then my personal favorite, Chris' booming vocals blowing nearly everything else away, especially during Temple of Love.

What can you do? Good to be there, but the following few shows were much better, I think. Amazing smoke in London, though...when we walked in, it was wafting around the bar and near the restrooms.

More to write...trying to face the fact that I'm back at work...a bit warped from travel...and wanting to not be here...
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PostPost #465  Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

There's no ambiguity in the consensus : the Astoria was s**t comapred to what The Sisters as a whole, and this lineup are capable of. Rock City and the ABC were miles better.
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PostPost #466  Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Some recognition of this wouldn't go amiss, even if we don't get the Barcelona style replay.
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PostPost #467  Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ruffers wrote:
Some recognition of this wouldn't go amiss, even if we don't get the Barcelona style replay.


When I spoke to Ben and Chris after Notts they both agreed that the Astoria gig was the weakest of the UK dates up to that point.
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PostPost #468  Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Scardwel wrote:
ruffers wrote:
Some recognition of this wouldn't go amiss, even if we don't get the Barcelona style replay.


When I spoke to Ben and Chris after Notts they both agreed that the Astoria gig was the weakest of the UK dates up to that point.


well then thank you so much guys.... Neutral
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PostPost #469  Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

canon docre wrote:
Scardwel wrote:
ruffers wrote:
Some recognition of this wouldn't go amiss, even if we don't get the Barcelona style replay.


When I spoke to Ben and Chris after Notts they both agreed that the Astoria gig was the weakest of the UK dates up to that point.


well then thank you so much guys.... Neutral


That does indeed make it all OK then.... Rolling Eyes
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PostPost #470  Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Amazing who you can bump into on the way to work...morning (again) Ruffers! Surprised ..at least you weren't causing a fire hazard this time! Laughing
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PostPost #471  Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Scardwel wrote:
ruffers wrote:
Some recognition of this wouldn't go amiss, even if we don't get the Barcelona style replay.


When I spoke to Ben and Chris after Notts they both agreed that the Astoria gig was the weakest of the UK dates up to that point.


"up to that point"ConfusedConfusedConfused?? Expecting a few more bad un's boys?
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PostPost #472  Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

C'mon it ain't their fault! Rolling Eyes
Ben and Chris are what's holding this band together at the moment IMHO. If it wasn't for them I wouldn't have bothered going to see this line-up again after Vegas.
London was crap for alot of reasons, but the band weren't to blame IMHO.
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PostPost #473  Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Some bad pics (my Manchester ones are a bit better, you know where to find them from):

http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e398/Indrek/Sisters%20in%20London%20Astoria%202006/
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PostPost #474  Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Gimme_The_Ring wrote:
Yeah I was looking at his other stuff and from the pictures it looks like pretty good quality which makes me wonder if it's an inside job but who knows? Wink

The DVD should be here in a couple of days so we'll know soon enough. Cool


Got my DVD today and just watched the first few minutes - can't watch it all yet as I'm busy painting the fence in my back garden.

Anyway.....

So far so good, really good picture so it wasn't done on some cheapo camera and the sound is very good too. Obviously you can't see an awful lot due to the smoke but the camera seems to be mounted on a tripod just right of the centre - all close ups are done just by zooming in & out but at least the picture isn't bouncing around all over the place. There's no menu screen, you insert the disc and it starts about 30 seconds before the guys walk on stage.
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PostPost #475  Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Sh*t....I'm going to Brusells on the next tour. All reviews / sound levels were top-nothch and by all accounts the last time they played there it was one of the best too. + FALAA + BURN



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intro 0.00
crash and burn 1.12
ribbons 5.28
will i dream 8.40
Flood I 12.34
Burn 17.15
Suzanne 19.16
Giving Ground 23.38
("stop doing that, it's really anoying") (TGGI?)
Summer 27.56
Dominion 31.20
Slept 37.09
Still 40.35
Alice 43.15
Anaconda 46.41
Neverland 49.31
I was Wrong 53.05
FALAA 55.53

59.42 < Break > 62.39

Something Fast 62.39
Lucreatia 65.26

69.43 < Break > 71.15

Top night out 71.15
Vision thing 74.43

> end > 79.54
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