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Interpretation of Some Kind of Stranger.

 
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PostPost #1  Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:16 am    Post subject: Interpretation of Some Kind of Stranger. Reply with quote Back to top

The Interpretation

The song opens with Von bitterly lamenting the slow breakdown of his band, what has mostly kept him driven and occupied throughout the eighties, giving his life a purpose.

The chorus which follows shows that Von is tired of examining life coldly and objectively, and that he longs to embrace life passionately, which the following verse also seems to suggest.

What follows is Von saying how hard and cruel and chaotic the world is, how cruel it is, but that if you search for a purpose, something he once had with his band, you might not mind too much.

So, in denial of the split-up of his band and his own meaningless mortality, he decides to embrace heroism - ala Ernest Becker’s “The Denial of Death” - transforming himself into some kind of Don Juan character, dealing with the world through woman, hence his decision to sleep with all the women in Berlin.

The Lyrics

And yes I believe in what we had
But words got in the way
And only yesterday
As I was leaving
Lord knows I've tried to say but I've
Heard a million conversations
Going where they've been before
Seen the way that careful lingers
Undecided at the door

And all I know for sure
All I know for real
Is knowing doesn't mean so much
When placed against the feeling
The heat inside
When bodies meet
When fingers touch

All my words are secondhand and
Useless in the face of this
Rationale and rhyme and reason
Pale beside a single kiss
And I've heard so many things I
Fail to understand at all
I'd settle anytime for
Unknown footsteps in the hall outside

And all I know for sure
All I know for real
Is knowing doesn't mean so much
When placed against the feeling
The heat inside
When bodies meet
When fingers touch

Because the world is cruel and
Promises are broken
Don't try to tell me
Anything don't try to tell me
You'll be true to me you know the
Real truth is never spoken
And I know the world is cold but
If you hold on tight to what you
Find you might not mind too much though
Even this must pass away and
Memories may last for years but
Names are just for souvenirs
Some kind of angel let me
Look into your eyes
Don't give me whys and wherefores
Reason or surprise
I don't care for words that don't belong
And I don't care what you're called
Tell me later if at all
I can wait a long long time
Before I hear another love song

Come here I think you're beautiful
My door is open wide
Some kind of angel come inside

Come here I think you're beautiful
I think you're beautiful beautiful
Some kind of angel come inside
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PostPost #2  Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Now I agree with you, on this cold Sunday morning.
Last night around midnight I would've agreed with James Blast.
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PostPost #3  Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

_emma_ wrote:
Now I agree with you, on this cold Sunday morning.
Last night around midnight I would've agreed with James Blast.


What was Heir Blast's interpretation?
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PostPost #4  Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

nick the stripper wrote:
_emma_ wrote:
Now I agree with you, on this cold Sunday morning.
Last night around midnight I would've agreed with James Blast.


What was Heir Blast's interpretation?


The end of a relationship, when love's gone and no one wants to admit it.
Now I think both James' and your interpretation make sense. Our fearless leader!
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PostPost #5  Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

no, I'm right Mr. Green
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PostPost #6  Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I still can't decide if it's addressed to an ex-Ms. Eldritch or to the prospective next Ms. Eldritch, or if they're the same person, or what. The vibe that something is breaking apart and that he needs something new is glaringly obvious, but the jury's out on what the somethings are. I believe Herr Blast's interpretation to be the standard, but this is Eldritch we're talking about; couldn't the song mean two or three things, or refer to the same state in however many different cases of affairs?
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PostPost #7  Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

He's in love, but shy.
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PostPost #8  Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

@ Episkopos Woah! AFAIK I'm the only one to read that breakup situ into the lyrics Neutral
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PostPost #9  Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

IIRC SKOS was described by von as a celebration of casual sex; presumably for it's own sake, rather than as a cure for a broken heart.
personally i've always thought it was a glorified chat-up line (albeit very beautifully done, and without any bullshit).

gary marx only said he felt that the "careful lingers........." line was a snidey personal dig at him -i doubt the band break-up sub-text (if any) would be any more than just that.
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PostPost #10  Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

here i go again dragging the level down to mine but ive always interpreted this song as the shagging of countless groupies after gigs!
(and its one of the very, very few ive managed any interpretation whatsoever!)
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PostPost #11  Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

yeah, i always thought it was "of course we didn't work out, let's just f**k other people" sort of thing. "Oh, I'm still sad about it, but freedom is fine!"
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PostPost #12  Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

It's clearly one of the most beautiful love songs ever written.... If any man ever wrote me something as beautiful as that, I'd be all his...
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PostPost #13  Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

@ Herr Blast: it just seems obvious to me, following on as it does from Nine While Nine which is so completely about the day you realise they're not there for you any more. Some Kind of Stranger has all that talk about broken promises and realising, in retrospect, that it was never going to work at all. It's Eldritch's way of saying "I'm sick of thinking about past failures, where's the next girl coming from?"

Of course, that could just be me projecting again, and nick the stripper makes a lot of good sense as well, but that's how I've always read the song. Beautiful, yes, but not terribly positive either. It sort of says "if I can't give up myself and love, I'm going to become a ruthless bastard..." or that's what it says to me, anyway.
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PostPost #14  Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

It's just occurred to me that SKOS is a long and beautiful way of saying, "f**k the pain away."
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